Dick's Sporting Goods refuses to stock,sell Michael Vick merchandise...

[old mark]

Even though Vick is - as of Wednesday - the Eagles starting QB, Dick's says they will not stock or sell his jersey or any team merchandise or other merchandise with his name on it due to his participation in dog fighting.

This from Philly Channel 6 News Thursday AM.

mark

[blueamy66]

1. Good on them.

I will shop there the next time my guy needs running shoes.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Roon]

2. Excellent!

Just when I have given up on people!

[HERVEPA]

3. That's nice, but I don't shop at sporting goos stores that sell guns.

[Renew Deal]

8. Why?

Guns can be sporting goods.

[HERVEPA]

13. I despise guns

If you like target shooting, leave your gun at the range.
No need for the gun otherwise.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but people with knives or fists have a hell of a lot harder time doing it.

[proteus_lives]

22. Correction: What you despise are people's rights.

And the fact that some have the audacity to defend/use them.

[Paladin]

34. Look Who's Talking.

Some people don't like guns or the things certain people do with them or the right-wing politics that constantly accompany the gun rights movement in this country. And you obviously despise such people.

Good on Dick's regarding Michael Vick, by the way. They just earned more of my future business.......

[Crazy Dave]

27. Cars do a pretty good job at it too but I can't quit driving n/t

[HERVEPA]

29. Purpose of cars is to get somewhere,

Purpose of guns, other than target or skeet shooting, is to harm or kill sentient beings.
Really, really poor analogy on your part.

[Crazy Dave]

32. I agree

They get people to and from the bar, drive by shootings or just plain using it as a deadly weapon.

More people will probably be killed by drunk or distracted drivers than with guns this year in the US. Your self-righteousness is very selective.

[Shell Beau]

42. I would say that most people want a gun for protection.

That would be a purpose. Whether or not it is used to hurt or kill someone can be a different deal. It can be a deterrent. Gun in your face, you may decide to flee. Just saying. There are lots of people out there who've been abused, raped, burglarized, etc., and sleep easier at night with a gun. You don't have to like that, but guns serve a purpose of protection. I don't own one by the way.

[Crazy Dave]

51. My family is alive and unharmed due to a gun being in the house

Had a home invasion 19 years ago. The kids were just babies back then. Somebody yanked our ac window unit out and was crawling into the window by the time the noise had waken us up and I had the gun. The guy already had one leg in the window and on the floor when I yelled "I have a gun MF'er!", his reply, "FU!", I fired a shot above his head and hit the kitchen cabinets, he was all the way inside by that time but did an Olympic dive back out the window and was gone.

So no regrets and a big FU to whoever doesn't like it. The cops never caught the guy to my knowledge unless he got busted down the road. The landlord didn't even charge me or take the damages out of my deposit when I moved either.

[Shell Beau]

60. Besides hunters and just plain ole thugs, I think most people

have a gun for that very reason. I rely on my dogs. But I also have my husband and home. Not sure what he can do, but I do feel safer with someone else there. If I were alone, I am almost certain I'd have a gun. That's just me.

My aunt's house has been broken into 3 different times. One of those times, she was duct taped (hands, feet, and over her eyes), knife held to her throat, and fondled. She got a gun soon after. He was never caught (at least to our knowledge), but she sleeps at night because of the gun she purchased. She actually pulled it out last week. Someone was tapping on her window. She asked "who's there?". No answer. More tapping. 3 different times this happened. She got the gun. Her dogs were going crazy. She called the cops. They came. The neighbor actually saw the random vehicle there. Her car was just broken into a couple of months ago. Her purse, license, everything was stolen, so some thug has her address. And since it was a Prada purse with lots of cash and credit cards, well who's to say they didn't want to see what she had in her house. She was able to rest somewhat better that night knowing she had that gun. She also has pretty shitty luck if you can tell.

I have no problem with responsible people owning guns. The responsible part is the hard part. I don't trust guns. I don't trust myself with a gun, but who the hell am I to tell someone that they can't rest easy at night?

[TheMightyFavog]

54. So ducks, pheasants, deer, bears, squirrels and other game species are sentient beings?

Ooooookkkaaaaayyyyyyyy... :eyes:

[BillStein]

30. do you have a license to drive?

is your car registered? are you required to have insurance?

That's all I want for your gun

[Amerigo Vespucci]

4. The two sides of the Vick coin

1). Yes, he paid the debt to society that was mandated by the courts

2). The world owes Vick nothing. I have never tortured animals and the world owes me nothing. No one is under any obligation to do anything for Vick. If he plays pro ball, his team is obligated to pay him. But if Dick's Sporting Goods doesn't want to sell Vick merchandise, that is their decision.

Whether Vick should be "forgiven"...and as a result, his past transgressions "forgotten"...is another matter.

Can you rehabilitate a monster? Maybe. What do you end up with?

A rehabilitated monster.

:patriot:

[old mark]

5. ...with a lot of money....nt

[blueamy66]

14. and a reality show

I almost threw up last night when I saw it

[tigereye]

6. what he did was awful, but can't someone pay their debt to society?

He did go to jail after all. Maybe he learned a lesson. Let's hope so.

[TZ]

7. No one in my field would hire me if I was a convicted felon

He's getting special treatment. Lets not forget that he had a SHOOTING that he lied about at a birthday party that was a pay and you can come affair not too long ago. Doesn't sound to me like he's rehabilitated.

[tigereye]

25. I know, but people should be able to be hired after they serve their time...

I missed the shooting part, though. Well, if he hasn't learned his lesson, he will probably be back in court before too long...


:shrug:

[ThomasQED]

38. He was hired and will still be a star and a millionaire

why can't a store make a decision on what they want to carry?

I'd think parents would love this, as they are refusing to glorify a violent felon. Would you want your kid wearing a jersey with his name on it?

[tigereye]

56. probably not, and I doubt my son would choose to...

I guess it's the endless public pillory that American has become. Again, if people serve their time, they should have a chance to be rehabilitated.

[Demoiselle]

48. My dog rescue friends tell me that dog fighting in Philly has

multiplied 6-fold since Vick was hired by the EAgles.
I'm a Philadelphian. I'm a sports fan. And I am thoroughly ashamed.

[Orsino]

17. Well, I would think that before we applaud him or enrich him...

...we should make pretty sure he no longer wants to torture animals.

Perhaps he doesn't need to turn into Albert Schweitzer, or a spokesperson for PETA/ASPCA...but some sort of convincing remorse and atonement would seem to be a minimum requirement?

[tigereye]

26. has he done any of that? PSAs or the like?

[jobycom]

23. Nope. Toss the Constitution. Punish until dead. It's America. nt

[TheManInTheMac]

57. How is he being punished?

Is Congress prohibiting Dick's Sporting Goods from selling his merchandise?

If you owned a bookstore and decided not to sell books by Sarah Palin or Glen Beck, would you be denying them of their freedom?

[ThomasQED]

37. Would you feel the same if he had done those things to a person?

While it's true he completed his sentence, American jails are not great in the rehabilitation area.

Knowing the violence and heartlessness he is capable of, I wouldn't want him anywhere around me.

[Shell Beau]

39. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Doesn't matter to me.

He will always be scum. Scum who had everything. Didn't need any money. He wasn't in a desperate situation. Maybe I'd be more willing to forgive someone so desperate. But not someone who had it all. Or still HAS it all. No can do. Is that right? I don't know and I don't care. I am usually a very very forgiving person. But he's out of jail. Still making money. He's fine. Good on Dick's for taking a stand.

[Shell Beau]

47. My last line... lol... Can't keep my mind out of the gutter.

:blush:

[lunatica]

46. He claims he's a victim regarding the dogs.

He can pay his debt to society, but when he whines about how he doesn't deserve it then he's just a fucking piece of shit. What he's really saying is he would do it again only be careful not to get caught the next time.

[Blue_Tires]

9. Cheap grandstanding...

They would have to stop selling about half of their jerseys in all sports, since quite a few others are druggies, woman beaters, drunk drivers, gamblers, absentee fathers, tax cheats or just general jackasses...

And to be consistent, will Dick's refuse to stock merchandise of teams whose OWNERS have come under legal or ethical scrutiny??


If they really wanted to make some kind of social statement with impact, Dick's would stop selling Nike gear or shoddy China-made crap -- But then the store would be empty... So they get to make news by NOT putting the five or ten Vick jerseys on a rack...

[realisticphish]

10. THIS

I have no problem with them refusing to sell Vick stuff. But only if they refuse to sell merchandise for any athlete who has spent time in jail

[KamaAina]

19. In particular, that other No. 7 Pa. QB, Ben Roethlisberger

Dick's is based in Pittsburgh. I'm not holding my breath.

[Shell Beau]

40. He wasn't convicted.

Not saying it didn't happen. Not saying it wasn't disgusting. But he wasn't convicted of anything.

[Crazy Dave]

28. Good point

Didn't Donte Stallworth only get 30 days in jail for killing a person?

[NoGOPZone]

33. Who would have thought Stallworth had something in common with Bill Janklow? nt

[jobycom]

43. Not really. Stallworth actually demanded he be convicted of a felony.

"Over and over, members of Stallworth’s elite team of attorneys shouted at him to fight the charges. They said there was no way to prove who was at fault. Reyes, after all, dashed across a busy freeway to catch a bus near a green light that rarely turns red. There was other evidence, never released to the public, Boucher said, that the lawyers wanted to give that would aid Stallworth’s case. Still he said no.

“The irony,” said one of Stallworth’s attorneys, David Cornwell, “is that a lot of the media and public was angry with the deal that he took. And the thing they wanted, for him to go to trial, was the thing he was trying to avoid for the family.”"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-stallworthsecondchance081210


His conviction was 30 days in prison, 1000 hours community service, two years house arrest (like in Disturbia, he can only leave for his job), another eight years on probation, and a lifetime ban on him driving again. The pedestrian was clearly at fault. He was running across a street outside a crosswalk in the dark to catch a bus. Supposedly a nearby camera even captured it, and the man's family agreed it was his fault.

Stallworth knew he would win any trial, and probably get no conviction at all, but he refused to fight it. He said he deserved to be convicted of a felony and because it was his fault he didn't want the family to have to go through a trial (he probably knew the trial would prolong his publicity, too, so it may not have been all altruism). Also, he was worried that if he didn't get a felony conviction his reputation would be even further damaged.

Pretty decent guy, all things considered. Not saying he didn't deserve more time. But I'd invite him to dinner over Roethlisberger or Pacman any day.

[jobycom]

36. You have way too firm a grip on reality and too much perspective for our little bonfire here.

:applaud:

[Lucian]

11. Good.

[joeybee12]

12. Good...he's a fraud...once he gets bashed back down to back-up QB

I'm willing to bet he reverts to his old ways.

[SoxFan]

15. Good!

If it were my call, I wouldn't stock Ray Lewis or Ben Roethlisberger, either.

[ohiosmith]

16. Doesn't matter. Have you ever shopped in a Dick's.? In Vegas the staff is clueless. They wouldn't if

the store stocked the merch or not.

[TheMightyFavog]

55. We talking Radio Shack employee levels of cluelessness here?

Or are we talking something more around the general mediocrity of the average Wal-Mart Electronics section guy?

[cloudbase]

18. Dick's Nix Vick.

I should be writing for Variety.

[emilyg]

20. Very good.

[proteus_lives]

21. Good for them.

Fuck Vick.

[jobycom]

24. But they have no problem with Roethlisberger. Women, dogs... you see the priority. nt

[Shell Beau]

41. The difference is that Ben wasn't convicted of any crime.

Again, as I said earlier, that doesn't mean what he "allegedly" did wasn't extremely disgusting. Just pointing out that there is no conviction. No charges filed.

[jobycom]

44. True enough, but Vick served his time, so there's no more grounds to punish him, either.

All we're doing is deciding who to hate and who not to hate. Justice has already had its crack at both people. I'm just saying if I'm going to hate someone, it's going to be Roethlisberger, and if someone hates Vick and not Roethlisberger (who I hate right now for having such a damned long name), I question their priorities.

[Shell Beau]

45. I personally hate them all. All the assholes who

think they are above the law because they are rich and famous. It is disgusting, and we are seeing more and more of it in the athletic world. Probably been going on forever, but now with the internet, 24 hour news, and our infatuation with celebs these days, it comes out.

[Skip Intro]

31. Good for them. Fuck that aminal-abusing asshole.

[Old Troop]

35. Outstanding!!

[Terra Alta]

49. Good.

I have no use for Vick at all. I'm a big animal lover and hate it when animals are abused. Michael Vick can rot in hell.

[Orrex]

50. Heh heh. You said "Dicks"

[SoxFan]

53. huhhuh, huh, huhhuh

[old mark]

59. I'll have to think long and hard before I post here again....

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mark

[gmoney]

52. dupe....

[meow2u3]

58. Here's something Dick's Sporting Goods can sell on a T-shirt

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