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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:05 AM
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How do you tactfully tell your boss he's wrong? Even if it's a trivial thing,

such as, he says people can't do such-and-such from the company's web page, but the fact is they can?

How would you approach this?



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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:10 AM
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1. FUCK YOU AND EVERYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU!!!!
Actually, that only works if you've already cleared out your office.

I've found that as long as your argument is more logical, better thought out, and backed up by sound facts and documentation, you at least have a 10% chance of getting somewhere with your boss.

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:18 AM
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2. Respectfully.
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 11:19 AM by Xithras
In my experience, bosses usually want to be corrected when they're spouting incorrect information, because they realize that it makes them look stupid. The trick is to do it in a way that doesn't make him feel like an idiot, or make you look smug or superior. Just be friendly and respectful.

"Excuse me boss, but I heard you say that we couldn't do X, and I thought you might want to know that X is actually possible on our current web page." Don't offer to "teach" him or provide instructions unless he asks for it, because that can be interpreted as demeaning.

Of course, your boss might (rightfully) point out that there are either problems with the work flow or intuitiveness of the site, if he wasn't able to find an important feature on his own.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:29 AM
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3. I wish it wasn't true but where I work there are two rules:
1. The boss is always right.
2. If the boss is wrong please refer to rule #1.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:35 PM
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4. If there's no benefit to you to give the boss the information, then have someone else do it
Best option, trick the intern into telling the boss he's wrong. Bonus points if it's one of those smug, over-educated and under-experienced interns who thinks he should have the bosses job... :)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:49 PM
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5. Beats the hell out of me.
Mine has a glass ego and takes it as an insult and a challenge to his authority to have an opinion different than his.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:04 PM
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6. Privately and without confrontation. I might send an email along the lines of
"subject: webpage FYI
message: In today's meeting, I understood you to say X about the company webpage. I don't know when it was changed, but in fact Y"

Keep it short and simple. Don't copy it to anybody. Keep a copy somewhere for your own records

Weasel just enough in the first sentence, so you really don't need to respond if Boss decides to be an asshat and retort that His/Her Excellency certainly said no such thing
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:11 PM
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7. I'd hit his smug face with a pie.
But, then again, that's my answer for everything boss related.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:16 PM
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8. "I thought that, too, but turns out you can. Look, over here, there's a link."
Something that makes it an understandable mistake.

It really depends on yours and his personality. I've had bosses where I'd say "Idiot. You can to." And they'd laugh. I've had bosses where I've had to be so cautious I had to blame myself. "Actually, I know you couldn't have known this, and I really should have told you before now, but they've added this feature now so that you can do that. So someone was thinking like you were and already fixed the problem before you spotted it."

Or you can call up pretending to be a customer and say "Hello. This is Mrs. Esterhouse. I was just using your website and noticed that I can do "X," and wanted to know if you thought I should or not."

Good luck on guessing right.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:27 PM
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9. Don't.
Bosses don't want to be told they are wrong...EVER!

Let him learn the hard way and don't say anything.

If he was the type you felt you could talk to, you already would have because you could.

If he is the type that makes you worry about talking to him about stuff...let him learn the hard way.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:16 PM
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10. Hey boss, have you seen this new feature on our website?
If he asks when it was implemented, mumble into your hand and walk away.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:23 PM
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11. Offer to show him/her how if they want to try it
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:34 PM
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12. Well, I used to be able to say "whaddayou, fucking nuts?" to the owner of
the electronics company I used to run, but then again it wasn't your average boss / employee relationship; he really did consider me to be the son he wished he'd had.

So that gave me some latitude. He ran the company with a tight fist, and I was the only one who could talk to him like that.

He died five years ago, and I still miss him, even though I quit working for him 20 years ago.

Redstone
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:37 PM
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13. You say, "I updated the company web page per your suggestion"
"Can I have a raise?"
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 06:14 PM
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14. Indirectly.
Instead of "You made a mistake," say "A mistake was made."
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 06:20 PM
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15. Find a patsy to tell him. Then watch from a distance. nt
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 06:47 PM
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16. By either
living with it, or by floating resumes and moving on ASAP. Your choice.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:01 PM
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17. It depends on the boss
I've worked for some that you just can't tell anything (they're usually the painfully stupid ones who don't know anything) and for others who look to me to have knowledge and experience they don't.

In your case though, this sounds demonstrable. If the boss gets obstinate, you can always show him he's wrong.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:14 PM
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18. I tell my bosses they're wrong all the time.
Technically, I'm the low man in the office but we're all specialists at some facet of branch banking. We all tell each other they're wrong about something just about daily.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:39 PM
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19. I've worked with my boss so long
And we have such a relationship that I don't have to tactfully tell him anything . The conversation would go like this:

(interoffice intercom) beep!

Him: "what the fuck do you want?"

me: " hey nutsack, you CAN do that from the company web page, just click the link in the top right corner"

"what link?"

" the little link that says station budget info, if you'd put your damn glasses on you could see it!"

" oh shit, I didn't know that... Now get back to work before I fire your ass!"

"fuck you , who else you gonna get?"

:rofl:

Him and I came up together on the engineering side of the company before we were both promoted to management, we were working the same job as equals back then so there's a lot of camaraderie there. I sometimes forget what it was like to work for some of the egomaniacs I've worked for in the past. I'm really fortunate in that regard.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:28 PM
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20. I just clear my throat.
Everyone knows I'm usually right ( * ), so I will be heard in such a situation. Being right doesn't qualify one to be in charge anyway so it isn't a big deal.


* - Makes one quite unpopular, but what can you do?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:31 PM
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21. "Christ, you are a fucking idiot."
"There's a link ON THE FRONT FUCKING PAGE, you inbred shit-for-brains. Did you spend all of five seconds looking for a way to do it before shutting your door and masturbating to the Sears Lingerie catalog you keep in your desk?"
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