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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 11:45 PM
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I'm recording two albums by Van Morrison for my Mom's neighbor...
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 11:52 PM by Archae
Ye gawds, is he ever :boring:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:00 AM
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1. Yeah
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:19 AM by pokerfan
Six Grammy Awards, both the Rock and Roll and Songwriters Hall of Fame. He's terrible.

ETA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-V5SJX1h0
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:12 AM
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6. Just my opinion of him, that's all.
Just did Nazareth, and next up, Willie.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:05 AM
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2. Um, NO
And it stoned me
Domino
Into the Mystic
Moondance
Bright Side Of The Road
Have I Told You Lately
Gloria
Wild Night
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:27 AM
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4. and...
Brown Eyed Girl
Midnight Special
Tupelo Honey
Summertime in England
Wavelength
Crazy Love
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:20 AM
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3. One of the worst, most overrated "artists" of the 60s/70s
He sings like he's constipated all the way up to his throat, and who the fuck ever that female backing vocalist is in the song Blue Money...OMG that is the worst shit I think I've ever heard on a classic rock station.

:puke:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:14 PM
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10. who's good, then?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:45 PM
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39. and ...*crickets*
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:58 AM
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41. Just about any progressive artist or band from the 70s for starters.
Then on the pop side of things you have Stevie Wonder, Cat Stevens, Harry Chapin, Gordon Lightfoot, and tons of others.

They can all sing and perform circles around Van Shitting-Out-His-Mouth Morrison.

DWEEP DWEEP DOO-DE-OOP
DWEEP DWEEP DOO-DE-OOP
DWEEP DWEEP DOO-DE-OOP
DWEEP DWEEP DOO-DE-OOP

DOO DOO

Couldn't have said it better. :)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:52 AM
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42. "Van Shitting-Out-His-Mouth Morrison."
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 04:03 AM
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43. This still isn't really my style, however...
...I did find it a lot more listenable than the songs I've heard on the radio.

And I also will concede that his voice in this performance was also good.

Maybe if there were anything in his collection of radio hits which would have interested me enough to explore his music further, I wouldn't have had such a harsh opinion. As it was, I would have expected "more of the same."

Please accept my apologies.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 04:06 AM
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44. Accepted.
He's really written & sung many truly beautiful & moving songs,
and is probably admired by & has influenced many of the singers
you love. Peace.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:01 PM
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20. We can't all be the Jonas Brothers.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:54 AM
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40. But I'm sure you try your damndest.
n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:29 AM
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45. *snerk*
:evilgrin:
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:28 AM
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5. Best show I saw all summer.....
At Jazzfest in May.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:49 PM
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14. He used to be in Berkeley every December
and we used to go to every show for my, um, extended birthday celebration. It's been about ten years since I've seen him. Damn.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:08 AM
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7. This may wake ya up . . .
or somebody ...

Tupelo Honey, 1980, Montreux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GMHzPeEyA&feature=related

What two albums were you recording?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:42 AM
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8. Or this, 30 years later . . .
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:54 PM
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15. His spot at The Last Waltz was one of the highlights of the show.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:57 PM
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16. Amen. And I believe that was in the middle of his big stage fright period...
& he nearly didn't/couldn't go on.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:58 PM
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17. It was his first time back in a while, from what I understand. n/t
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:16 PM
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9. These:
Wavelength

Tupelo Honey
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:36 PM
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11. a review from my library's site. btw, thanks for reminding me. picking up all their copies of him
Funnily enough, considering the subject and theme of his latest book, reading über-critic Greil Marcus is a lot like listening to Van Morrison. The experience can be illuminating, frustrating, transcendent, and solipsistic—often in the same paragraph or song. Like Morrison, Marcus has been following his own path for quite some time, and anyone who has a passing familiarity with either of them will always be able to find the gold hidden down a backstreet or way up top a flight of fancy.

My problem with Marcus is that his exhortations can be the definition of pedantic, referencing far-flung obscure artists and works in order to make a point that no-one can truly argue with, having no idea who or what he’s is talking about. On the other hand, like listening to Morrison himself, if you’re willing to put in the work, you can be turned on to artists, books, movies, etc. that may later become indispensable to your life. What Marcus does here, is doubly off-putting, as he spends a great deal of time extolling the virtues of tracks and performances of Morrison’s that are unavailable anywhere but bootlegs, a stream that Morrison spends a great deal of energy to dam, enlisting the services of Web Sheriff to scour the internet of any traces of illicit music. I was lucky enough to have a copy of the 1971 KSAN Pacific High Studios show which is referenced pretty heavily, but as far as Caledonia Soul Music, which according to Marcus is the key to the whole thing, I’ll just have to take his word for it. In this book, Marcus eschews most biographical information, much, I can imagine to Morrison’s relief, only pointing out pertinent signposts along the way.

The whole focus is on those moments of un-forced transcendence that Marcus believes paint a secret map through the jungle of Morrison’s oeuvre. As with any great artist—and to put my cards on the table, I believe Morrison to be one of the greatest singers of the last 40 years—what pieces resonate with your soul at any given time is ... (show full review)completely subjective. I think Marcus is either trying to be cute, or is just being lazy to discount in one fell swoop everything Morrison put out between Common One in 1980, and Tell Me Something in 1996. Marcus talks about looking for the “yarragh” in Morrison’s performances, that moment that transcends language and artifice to, as Morrison once sang, “get down to the real soul, I mean the real soul, people.”

To take a page from Marcus’ book if I may refer to a performance now out-of-print and unavailable, as a child of the ’70s I knew Morrison primarily as an AM radio hit maker and it wasn’t until PBS ran Van Morrison The Concert, recorded at New York’s Beacon Theater in 1989, that I was exposed to Morrison the mystic. I don’t recall which number he used to launch himself into the “yarragh,” but all of a sudden, he was growling and barking, not like a madman, but like a genius. I remember standing in front of the TV just slack-jawed; this was someone who warranted further investigation.

All of a sudden I understood why someone like Morrison would rankle against cheap stardom. It wasn’t the f*ck*ng point. This, this is the point. And although Marcus’ examples are personal to his own experience, as far as catching the desperately vital point of it all, we really do see eye-to-eye. — review by user railarson
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:45 PM
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12. Speaking of "Common One" ...
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:20 PM
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24. thanks! that's one of the albums I'm picking up later today. 75 minutes
and they'll all be ready.

I love my library
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:00 PM
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19. just reserved 14 albums from the library. here's a clip from Last Waltz:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:03 PM
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21. The Band looks like it's going to keel over from boredom.
lol

It's was so funny because the last time I saw him, they'd hired a much younger singer to lead on the really early stuff because his voice was just deeper now. It was eerie, listening to this young guy sound so much like Morrison and then, to hear the mature Morrison back him.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:25 PM
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25. yeah...robbie robertson came off like quite the egomaniac in the interviews
those were sort of disappointing, but there are some great performances

can't remember, did they do Life is a Carnival?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:31 PM
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27. there's this. never seen it before
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 04:33 PM by Gabi Hayes
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:13 PM
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29. Thanks. And I was kidding about
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 05:14 PM by EFerrari
those guys. They looked like they were having a great time.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:41 PM
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30. oh...heh....I sorta wondered about that. but you know how peoples' perceptions
vary so wildly

I think I'm getting a little chest fever, just thinking about it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_x7sioBQs
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:19 PM
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31. It's a mean old world.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 06:21 PM by EFerrari
I think I'd rather watch Robertson, all coked up or not, do anything than watch anyone else except Levon Helm or Danko. Or, Van. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKsiTSwBdtk
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:28 PM
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36. sigh....seen this:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:33 PM
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37. Yup.
I must have been through everything up at youtube ten times. And probably will be again.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:25 PM
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32. That was just the coke talking.Lots of coke.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:47 PM
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13. You must be recording some other Van Morrison.
:)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:00 PM
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18. Thanks, Archae.
Youve led me to revisit one of his lesser known albums
"Hard Nose the Highway," including the splendiferous
(audio only) "Snow in San Anselmo"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpcsThJEgWM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:11 PM
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22. Do you know what happened to his webisite at YouTube?
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 04:12 PM by EFerrari
It disappeared one day. They'd just put up all kinds of tracks, too.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:17 PM
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23. He's a tres strange cat.
He may have just shut it down.
In the recent Time interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVHbUPNcTiU
he said he was going to end his contract with ... Itunes?
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:25 PM
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26. I love Van Morrison
Although I usually trip over myself to change the station if Brown Eyed Girl comes on. Only song of his I can't abide.
How 'bout Them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV0yATP4RZs
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:44 PM
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28. when I was a yute, The Shadows of Knight had a big hit locally with Gloria.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 05:43 PM by Gabi Hayes
we all thought at the time it was their song. nobody knew from Van Morrison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1GOUdfQXGw

seen at one of the coolest hipster venues of the day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cellar_(teen_dance_club)

The Cellar became a notable venue for several reasons. Most importantly, it provided teenagers from the region with a place to congregate and to dance.

It was also notable because of its talented regional house / repeat bands, such as: the Shadows of Knight, The Mauds, H.P. Lovecraft <2> , Saturday's Children, Ted Nugent<3> with The Amboy Dukes, The Huns, The Raevns, The Other Half<4>, and Little Boy Blues <5>.

Additionally, given the modest warehouse venue in a northwestern suburb of Chicago, The Cellar proved to be truly remarkable because of the extraordinary national and international Rock acts that also made appearances there, such as:

The Who,<6> <7> The Cream,<8> The Byrds,<9> Buffalo Springfield,<10> and The Spencer Davis Group.<11>

>>>>>>

lots of other groups of the day, including Steppenwolf, Strawberry Alarm Clock, Seeds, Moby Grape

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:34 PM
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35. Brown Eyed Girl is definitely overplayed
but it's overplayed because it's a great song. It has a great upbeat calypso vibe going for it which is probably why Jimmy Buffett covered it (not to mention hundreds of other artists),

Believe it or not, it was originally considered too risque (:wtf:) for radio with many stations objecting to the line, "Making love in the green grass."
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:24 PM
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33. No way!
Van IS the man! :thumbsdown:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:33 PM
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34. two words for you:
Astral Weeks.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:43 PM
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38. Van Morrison is scorching hot!
Best to wear protective clothing when ripping.

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