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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:39 AM
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High life as a Rolling Stone: Keith Richards reveals all about drugs, sex...
and legendary lover Mick Jagger's 'tiny' manhood

Autobiography reveals guitarist hasn't been in 'unbearable' Jagger's dressing room for two decades
Richards spent two years thinking actor Johnny Depp was a drug dealer
He treated his body 'like a temple' by only taking 'high quality drugs'
Veteran hellraiser promises he'll never quit playing music


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1320761/Rolling-Stone-Keith-Richards-reveals-drugs-sex-Mick-Jaggers-tiny-manhood.html#ixzz12X4vZPxS



This looks like it will be a fun book to read. Coming out October 26th.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:46 AM
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1. marking 10/26 on my calendar
I love going book shopping.
There are a few others I need to pick up too.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:41 AM
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2. Keith didn't have the guts to call his autobiography "Mama's Boy"...
although that is the actual truth of the much mythologized...ahem...outlaw
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:47 AM
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3. hilarious and an eye opener
Sounds like an intriguing read.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:51 AM
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4. That is one book I won't be buying.
Not interested. At all.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:56 AM
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5. two interesting books by stanley booth; one on KR, one on the stones' 69 tour/early years:
http://www.amazon.com/Keith-Standing-Shadows-Stanley-Booth/dp/0312141165

http://www.amazon.com/True-Adventures-Rolling-Stones/dp/1556524005

from a review of the stones' tour book, with much of which I heartily agree:

Okay, I am a huge fan of classic rock and punk music and I have a great time searching for new rock biographies, histories and memoirs to read. The Stones are one of the three bands I consider to be the "holy trinity" of British rock music (along with the Beatles and the Clash) and, after collecting 41 different albums of their music (yeegads!) I picked up a copy of this book, simply because I had heard it was good from another Stones fan.

What an understatement that turned out to be. "The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones" is not only the best book on rock 'n' roll I have yet read, and there have been many, it is also one of my top five books. Ever. As another reviewer already already stated, this book is many different things rolled into one. It is a deeply interesting document of the Stones' 1969 American tour (which included both Altamont and the recording of 'Get Yer Ya-Yas Out!' at Madison Square Garden). It is also a precise history of the band up to the point of its writing, a dreary and drug-soaked eulogy for the '60s and a deeply personal journal from the pen of Stanley Booth.

There isn't really anything else like this book. Unlike many rock biographers, Booth did not base his book on sketchy interviews and the "facts" presented in other people's books. He traveled with the Stones on the '69 tour and writes the story from his own point of view. This creates a very interesting situation for the reader because you get to see the Stones' world from Booth's eyes: as an outsider looking in. Each one of the Stones are captured beautifully through dialog and actions that Booth witnessed. You get to see everything from Keith's wry sense of humor to Mick's complexities as he tries to befriend Booth and keep him at arm's length all at once.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:09 AM
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6. from sam cutler, tour manager in 69, a book in which he gives his side of the story:
he didn't like booth. feeling seemed pretty mutual

I got the impression of cutler as quite the self-promoter, and didn't care for much of the book's tone, but the behind the scenes stuff is interesting

stones screwed him bigtime after the tour, btw, and he took much of the blame for altamont, which was really pretty much on the stones and the dead (for whom cutler started working soon after altamont)

http://www.amazon.com/You-Cant-Always-What-Want/dp/155022932X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287245156&sr=8-1-catcorr
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:47 AM
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7. Thank you
I love reading rock biographies and have not read "The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones." Now I guess I'll be buying two. (I feel wicked reading these books). :fistbump:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:58 AM
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8. try the library. that's where I got both those. I already reserved the audiobook version
of KR's book.

I can't afford to buy books these days, so the library is my best friend

here's an interesting book



great section on Joe Meek, recording pioneer, sad maniac, who turned down working with the beatles, among others, including rod stewart, whose voice he loathed
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:22 PM
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10. You are so interesting
"Songs in the Key of Z" is the kind of book I would love to read. I'm currently living in the Midlands (UK), and the library here isn't much - so I may have to order perhaps a used one. :yourock:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:29 PM
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13. see if your library can get copies from other libraries. that's what I do all the time.
that's where I got the Z book.

we have interlibrary loan, and I get stuff from all over the US. I hope they have something similar over there.

I've heard rumors they're going to be phasing that out here, and I'll be devastated if they do
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:20 PM
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9. I found Booth's "Keith: Standing in the Shadows" to be little more than a Keef skagiography...
and although I did enjoy "The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones",I have to take exception with the "outsider looking in" aspect.
Booth's book still suffers from the same fault as many "on the road with a band" accounts; despite his protestations, Booth starts to view himself as a "hip insider"...but he still isn't. I honestly think the best of that genre is Bob Greene's "Billion Dollar Baby"; Greene comes to the project as a square and remains one throughout his time with Alice Cooper. There is no self delusion.

For my money, the most entertaining "life with the Stones book" is still Spanish Tony's "Up and Down with the Rolling Stones"
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:27 PM
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11. I only read snips of the 'standing' book, and liked what I read. have heard both of
his richards books suffer from his self-proclaimed close relationship.

agree to some extent on your take on the stones book, but I thought there were plenty of enlightening observations (haven't read much about them, so I don't know that much about them other than info gained in passing)

didn't much care for Greene's book, having not been much of a fan of his as a result of reading lots of his columns (local paper at the time), and parts of his other books. always struck me as sort of a phony, which he turned out to be

I will look for that other book, though. thx for the heads up

have you seen cocksucker blues?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:36 PM
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14. I watched it (again) just last week...
I am the first to admit that I have spent far too much of my life thinking about The Rolling Stones :)

I completely agree with you about the rest of Greene's work; it just epitomizes the whole yuppie/boomer mentality. However, I read the Cooper book years and years ago, and it has always just stuck with me.

Sanchez's book is hilarious; there is no attempt to mythologize. It is just an account of scoring for, and doing drugs with, Richard(s)
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:44 PM
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15. where'd you get the movie, please? I have hesitated to axe my library for it,
and don't feel like paying for it.

so I seem to be in a conundrum....

he said after realizing he hasn't really checked into it online

that would be so effortful, yes?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:59 PM
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18. There are a couple of pretty clear dubs on videogoogle
For years, I had to make do with a 5th generation bootleg that was so grainy, that I would find myself asking "Is that Mick...or Bianca?"
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:19 PM
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21. Ha. Someone suggested that's why Mick married Bianca
Because at the time - she looked just like him! :rofl:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:25 PM
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24. thanks. it's a lot of strain, but I'll see if I can press those keys
here's a little recompense, from the pages of that Z book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lRkoP-N8Y
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:28 PM
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12. I totally agree with your assessment
on Tony Sanchez's "Up and Down with the Rolling Stones" So entertaining I had to read it twice. Wicked it was! :fistbump:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:57 PM
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16. The REAL "legendary lover" in the Stones was bassist Bill Wyman, who allegedly had sex with
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 12:59 PM by old mark
around 2,000 women...see the Wiki article on this and his many other accomplishments, evidently all done in his spare time... Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Wyman

Seriously, Wyman's accomplishments - beyond his sex life - are pretty staggering.

IRL, Keith can be a pretty nasty, sarcastic and arrogant individual, even when straight.
Plays guitar acceptably.

mark
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:02 PM
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19. As much as Keith has tried to present himself as Huck Finn, the reality is that he is a bit more...
like Sid Sawyer.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:23 PM
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34. He took the name Bill Wyman from a guy he was in the RAF with
I had to read this several times to understand it - his son from his first marriage married the mother of his wife (whom he began dating when she was 13)


In 1993, while Wyman was still married to Mandy Smith his son from his first marriage, Stephen, became engaged to Smith's mother.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:25 PM
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35. sounds like an episode of "Earl"
or something the Palins of Podunk might be involved with
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:58 PM
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17. Isn't that about the same time Shrubeenie's book comes out?
Guess which will have more truth.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:23 PM
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22. a week or so after the election. will he go back on letterman? daily show?
douchebag says 'is our children learning?'
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:04 PM
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20. How does he have such intimate knowlege of Mick?
Is there a subplot we don't know about?
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:24 PM
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23. Maybe
he got it from Marianne or Anita? :shrug: Will have to read the book to find out.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:28 PM
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25. they were both in love with Anita. she was incredibly beautiful, exotic back then.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 01:29 PM by Gabi Hayes
watch Performance, in which they have some very provocative scenes together

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1320638/Keith-Richards-gofer-recalls-Mick-Jaggers-affair-Anita-Pallenberg.html

heh...mitchum, note who wrote this

I just ordered his book from our interlibrary loan system

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:35 PM
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26. those pix of her in the article are the worst I've ever seen of her.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 01:40 PM by Gabi Hayes
at that age.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:41 PM
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27. "why are we fighting, an' wha' faw?"
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:28 PM
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28. Check out Anita
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:31 PM
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30. as opposed to Keith Richards?
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 03:32 PM by Bucky
I'm tellin' ya, she's still got it...

whatever it is
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 05:55 PM
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32. I know. it's sad, but that's what happens. I mentioned it, obliquely, in one of those
above posts

first time I saw those older pics, I sighed for my own lost youth
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:30 PM
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29. My first reaction is that this is coming out about 20 years too late to be interesting
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:46 PM
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31. I'm just trying to make some sense
Watching girls go passing by
It ain't the latest thing
I'm just standing in a doorway
I'm just trying to make some sense
Out of these girls go passing by
The tales they tell of men
I'm not waiting on a lady
I'm just waiting on a friend

A smile relieves a heart that grieves
Remember what I said
I'm not waiting on a lady
I'm just waiting on a friend

I'm just waiting on a friend

Don't need a whore
I don't need no booze
Don't need a virgin priest
But I need someone I can cry to
I need someone to protect
Making love and breaking hearts
It is a game for youth
But I'm not waiting on a lady
I'm just waiting on a friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0NYKWLMgx0&ob=av3e
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:08 PM
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33. If the treated his body like a temple,
why is it in ruins?
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:15 PM
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36. Not so sure it is
Yes, his face looks "weathered", but look at all he is doing. He gets around really good. In the book he mentions quitting hard drugs a long time ago. (May or may not be true, I don't believe everything I read).
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:37 PM
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37. It is true, as far as I know (about no longer using hard drugs)
There has been a lot of myth built up around him, and some is true, some isn't ...Some was, some isn't any more...I have refrained from entering this discussion because I admit to getting occasionally obnoxious with my "I know this guy or that guy" anecdotes (or in a more unflattering light, name-dropping) and it really isn't all that important a subject in the grand scheme of things,but it is interesting to us music and especially Stones fans...The person from whom I have heard stories about Keith as well as the debunking of rumors etc, is in a position to know, although he is certainly not an unbiased observer, so I take that into account on the relatively rare occasions that I see him, although saw him this past summer (and rarer still, that he talks about Keith or the Stones). I don't really want to name this guy, but there are a handful of people here on DU who know that this friend really is in a position to know what he's talking about. (And then again, I suppose he could be bullshitting me sometimes too)...One thing he insists is true is that Keith is a much nicer guy than he is often given credit for...
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 03:33 AM
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38. I'm guessing Keith
is a comedian without even trying and a really nice person; now Jagger I would bet is an ass. I don't have any inside information - just guessing. :smoke:
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