UndertheOcean
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Fri Oct-22-10 05:40 PM
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So let us START :
"riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs."
What do you suppose that means ?
"riverrun" : Is not in the dictionary, but might indicate the path of a river.
"past Eve and Adam's" ??? An allusion to the Garden of Eden ? The river is passing an area with lush green vegetation ?
"commodius vicus of recirculation " Latin ? convenient viscosity of the water , allows the flow to loop back towards a place called "Howth" castle . "evirons" is a surrounding area or district .
Ok cool .
Now Sentence number 2 :
" Sir Tristram, violer d'amores, fr'over the short sea, had passen- core rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war:"
OH BOY ,, anyone want to take a bite ?
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Dr Morbius
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Fri Oct-22-10 09:02 PM
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1. I couldn't make it past Ulysses. |
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I figure Sir Tristram (violer d'amores = ladykiller; passencore = pass encore = recently) there was trying to get laid (penisolate war) over on the Continent someplace. Beyond that, I can't help much. Joyce is just so disconnected.
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tigereye
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Sat Oct-23-10 10:15 AM
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2. there must be an annotated version out there somewhere... |
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some things you have to read for the sound and the flow first (like old poetry and stories) and then look into the meaning. I tend to think of Joyce as a bawdy, imagistic, drunken story teller. JMO
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Sat Oct-23-10 10:57 AM
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3. I always thought Eve and Adam's was a pub. |
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With the vast intake of distilled spirits by the author, I just made an assumption.
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Sat Oct-23-10 11:16 AM
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4. Translation: There's a winding river that leads to Howth Castle. |
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Edited on Sat Oct-23-10 11:22 AM by gmoney
Just fucking SAY IT, James... There is "A Shorter Finnegan's Wake" edited by Anthony Burgess... might be more comprehensible. http://www.amazon.com/Shorter-Finnegans-Wake-James-Joyce/dp/0670002240/Or there's Joseph Campbell's dissection of it: http://www.amazon.com/Skeleton-Key-Finnegans-Wake-Masterwork/dp/1577314050/
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