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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:21 PM
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Oh boy! a NEW TOBACCO product! Yippee!
Snus from Camel.

Snus is spit-free, smoke-free, mess-free, tobacco that comes in a small pouch. Just slide it under your upper lip and enjoy.

The tobacco companies are working hard to keep their customers from quitting.


https://snus.tobaccopleasure.com/modules/security/Login.aspx
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:29 PM
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1. Let's see
Smoke - nope
Passive Smoke - Nope
Lung Cancer - Nope
Emphysema - Nope
200 years in Sweden - Yep

Nicotine Nazi's - You betcha
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:34 PM
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5. Glenn? Mr Beck? More nazis, sir? n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:29 PM
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2. Nothing is more beautiful that to see someone without part of their jaw & tongue
with drool constantly dripping.

That's what my uncle ended up with.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:31 PM
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3. How about someone with dementia?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:31 PM
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4. My 6 year old loves it...she can get her dip on at recess now.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:56 PM
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6. Mmmmmm tomacco....
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:45 PM
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7. Snus is awesome. Have you tried it?
It works a million times better for me than the patch, and my brother was able to quit smoking cigarettes because of it. When I start my quit process soon, that's what I'm going to use. I figure attacking the psychological aspects of smoking first couldn't hurt, considering how many times I've failed with the patch and gum.

What exactly is your issue with this?
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:57 PM
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8. Is snus being marketed as a tobacco-addiction aid...
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...or as a new method that will, as a by-product... facilitate MORE addiction?
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I don't know -- if it's the former, I'm not sure why there would be an issue.
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If it's the latter, you sound like a company hack -- wondering why someone might
have an "issue" with another potentially harmful addictive product.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:10 PM
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9. I am addicted to nicotine. Many other people are as well.
Why do you give so much of a fuck if people want to buy something that is arguably safer?
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:20 PM
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10. 60 Minutes had a good piece back in April 2010
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 05:06 PM
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11. Camel has been pretty insidious w/it's tactics for quite sometime
Good example:

Within days of my daughter's 18th birthday (7 years ago), she was sent a "Happy Birthday" set of Camel product coupons. I kid you not! I thought to myself at the time that it was quite despicable on the company's part to be pushing cigs on teenagers the minute it's legal.

However, since I was a smoker then, and they were practically giving the cigs away, I used the coupons myself. These coupons btw are barcoded, so I'm sure it was recorded somehow that they had been used. Thereafter, I continued to get Camel coupons addressed to my daughter, though she's never been a smoker and had long since gone off to college, graduated, and started her career.

I continued to get and use them.

The arrival of these (very good savings) coupons in my mailbox became predictable rather quickly. They'd show up every couple of months, with extra-generous savings (incidentally) around the times when people often resolve to quit like New Year's, on her birthdays, and various other holidays. Camel's agenda became even more clear when once a local store clerk asked how me how I always managed to get these coupons. She told me that she had "tried" but was rejected every time for being "too old" :shrug: (hey, her words)

I finally quit smoking completely over 4 months ago, after nearly a year of serious trying. Camel has been attempting to lure me (er, supposedly my daughter) back ever since with solicitations like... We miss your business, we want you back!!!

Hey, no one forced me to use these coupons. In fact, they were not even intended for me. And even if hypothetically, my daughter had been suckered in, it still would have been her own fault at age 18.

However, I still thought this experience worth telling in order to make parents of teens aware of the fact that tobacco companies are still doing their best to lure a new generation of smokers/tobacco users in. They've just gotten a bit more savvy in the ways go about it.





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FamousBlueRaincoat Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 05:25 PM
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12. SNUS has been around for a LONG, LONG time!
The Swedish have been using it for over 200 years.

Camel and Marlboro market a snus which sucks. It is inferior to Swedish Snus. It tastes funky and delivers very little nicotine compared to Swedish snus, which I started buying from a tobacco shop (you can probably find it at most high end smokeshops, that cater to the cigar and pipe crowd).

The closest I ever came to quitting smoking was with Snus...and I wasn't even trying to quit smoking. I just wanted to try snus, and I wound up smoking a lot less. It's not marketed as a quit-smoking aid...but you don't have to be a freaking rocket scientist to figure it out. I tried nicotine gum to quit. It failed. Here's snus...it's in a pouch, you stick it in your mouth, it tastes like tobacco. It takes all of 1 second to make that connection. Smokers aren't that stupid, despite what anti-smoking folks would have you believe.

When I was using snus, I cut down on my cigarette intake from about 30 cigarettes a day to 2 or 3 (right when waking up and right before bed). There were actually some days I didn't smoke at all, which is more than I can say about the gum. I craved cigarettes constantly while on the gum. Anyway, I wound up just deciding that I didn't care for the snus that much. Like I said, I wasn't trying to quit smoking.

If I ever actually wanted to quit, snus would be the way that I went. Of course, the tobacco hysterics crowd is trying to make it illegal, so it probably won't even be around by the time I make a serious attempt to quit. It's already banned in the EU.

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