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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:02 AM
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I would like to explain 'stalkers' that think they are in love with some star.
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 08:41 AM by RandomThoughts
And even people that go crazy for some actor musician or politician.

Basically the person feels an empathetic bond with the charisma, or the spiritual side of the person. That bond feels like complete love, first love, but is not about the person they think they fall in love with, they don't even know them, and that person doesn't feel the same thing. Since it is not them.

So when someone falls in love with a star, and actually loves them, and the star doesn't even know about it, in some extream cases the reason they stalk them is they are in love with some spiritual thing around the star, and that thing may have even replied back to them. But the star never knows it, because it is not about them.


There was a guy that met George Lucus, he was shaking and ecstatic, that had nothing to do with George Lucus, but the spirit that wrote Star Wars, unless you factor in that could be said to be part of George Lucus at some time.


My point is it is a giving of love to some spiritual thing part of a bigger spiritual existence, and the person never knows it. Jumping the barrier to the person is thought possible by some, that would be the choice of that spiritual thing around or in them, and action done by their spiritual thing.

Or that is how I observed it when you see thousands of people screaming at a concert or line with stars and stuff.


Stars also give back to the audience, and they can feel that also.

How do people not know this stuff, Bob Seger even sung about it.

Bob Seger - Turn the Page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khH9ih2XJg


Can you see that as a spiritual thing being seen.

The entire song is spiritual metaphors. All of it. It even talks about him in the third person. Even talks about him thinking back after returning to driver seat.

Isn't this stuff obvious to everyone? I assume he knows about it.

In his other song he talks about 20 years, where did they go(not the years), then they come back to him late at night. That is spiritual also.


Its all there, the restaurant, Just want to explode, (emp),


Sometimes you can hear them talk, sometimes you can't. <- he is talking about the multiple things talking in his head, they can have conversations with each other that you can hear, but that is the manipulative ones from my experience, and they also are not that smart, nor all knowing, nor can they hear thinking in images. Might be different for him, but songs like that song are why I think this whole matter is so important.


Is it a women or a man.
There I go, here I am, talking about watching himself while on stage. It all makes sense.



Also why I think Kid Rock song about fighting an entire army on your own.


And you can make a stand. after a few years, or sometimes decades of getting kicked around you get some help.



Now realize that is how most people in power are private or public, they either went through it and made it out with some help, or are in the same place he is in that song.

Why people have to know about it so they don't get hit with it when they get in an influence position, and are unprepared.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:56 AM
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1. uh . . .
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:13 AM
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3. Its probably different for different people.
But I can show multiple examples, and even correlate them in sequences.

Can even quote many comments said that confirm ideas around it.

Although there are also multiple meanings blocking also. Basically really advanced stuff and hard to explain. Since it depends on the moment and what you believe is the cause.

It is hard to say it was not the person, that is not exactly right, but it is not only the person. The person has something to do with it also, but also with something else.

Depends what you believe, bouncing between doctrines, could be spirits, his song is actually about 'show' or 'the world is some entertainment book' in that song.



It is part the person, part some inspiration thing, but some of them are bad, and some good, some controlling and hungry some not. And they can change and move between people. And sometimes get free or what I call cleaned. But you can't do what they say if you disagree with it by better thought.




yea I know way over the top, but can back it up showing it correlates across many people. Can tell lots of correlating stories in different contexts. Even these posts have dual story in them, another context during this context.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:31 AM
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5. Someone on DU once said this about celebrities:
And I'm paraphrasing: "You'd be surprised at how unremarkable 99% of them are. Aside from the very few (almost a handful) that genuinely have otherworldly talent and vision, half of them are humble about it and realize they plain got lucky and the other half think that the world should be handed to them on a silver platter".

Stalkers likely don't see this. They see an untouchable entity which either needs to love them or be abused/die by their own hand. Of course, most stalkers are pretty much harmless, except for the one or two that send Bjork mailbombs, then shave their heads and kill themselves.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:42 AM
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6. yea, that post was pretty out there.
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 10:21 AM by RandomThoughts
I actually understand that. I know what Charisma is.

It is not always the same thing, and it is not unstoppable. Socially it is stopped by more diversity and less consolidations.

In a person, you don't do what they say, and stick to your arguments, and they change. Or you just knock them out, but it took me years to learn that. And maintain better feelings also.


Here is the hard part, that song does not match many other things, including many other of his songs.


That is a capitulation, so assume it was a documentation during a struggle he was having. But many of those songs are spiritual.


Here listen to this song, think of it as a spirit singing through the singer, not the singer singing. A spirit being tortured and interrogated, but can't get out. However Bruce is actually helping it, by my best guess, it is also book doctrine in part of it.

So much in that song. depends on the context, I am trying to explain a song that only has meaning in multiple sequencing. So to play that song around 5 other songs, then the tips of the waves are seen and it tells a story, basically depending on contextual location different parts of the songs have meaning, making them be able to be part of many different stories. all dependent on context and sequence. Each song by itself doesn't have much meaning, since there are multiple parts of many stories in each song.


Bruce Springsteen - Dancing In The Dark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs




And nobody has paid what is due in beer and travel money, although they have ratcheted up deceptions and smears.


I posted this thread to try to explain without using correlation, since I am thinking maybe people don't know what I am talking about after Letterman had a guy talking about turning up the volume and him not understanding. It is possible other people are not seeing the stories.

So picked a couple obvious songs to show a basic letter in the alphabet.



So do you get it now.

I should add, the line is. This gun is for Higher.


Side note, Can you see how the part 'check my look in the mirror', could be used in a story after the Snow White story, or After the Like a Rock story. Or even after the post of Picard and flute. See how that line can fit as a letter after any of those posts. That is just one part of that song. But see how the construction of letter sequences works.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 10:42 AM
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7. Fits nice with the bert and earnie post doesn't it..
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 10:43 AM by RandomThoughts
(without the label trap)
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:37 PM
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8. Many of the humble ones simply work hard.
They are out day after day, practicing their art or craft, preparing for a role, rehearsing for a concert, etc.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:26 PM
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10. Not really a statement about that singer.
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 07:56 PM by RandomThoughts
I actually think he was trying to tell people things that need correcting in society. It fits the whole concept of relit, and an authoritarian structure with burnouts needing a spark.

It makes sense in the totality of it all.


The alphabet part is also explained in this song.



do-re-mi The Sound of Music - Julie Andrews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBepgH00GM



That was part of a story with a many videos in sequence. Powder post, there is a scene in there about feeling the way of the innocent thing killed for the pleasure of a hunt. Also fits the concept of justice in the after. So it really makes sense.


Doe a deer a female deer. <-unjust suffering of a dear person, with love.
Re a drop of golden sun. <-spark of light.
Me a name I call myself. <-becoming alive again, existing again, outside of some structure where not existence by being a burn out extension of something else was how a person was.
fa long way to run <- still growing up
so a needle pulling thread <- stitching things together bringing together parts of the whole. and the thread and needle
la a note to follow so <- reestablishment of justice with compassion.
T a drink with jam and bread <- the drink and mana.
And back to Doe <- healed and restored.




Most of the songs say the same things, or are parts of many stories.


Note the "found the gold" in the dance.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:58 AM
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2. I know all of you have been told voices in the head are schizoid.
Maybe it is sometimes, but if it was, how are things correlating.

The schizoid part may be true for some, but for many it is spiritual.


And if you try to do good in society, they send resources after you, but they have a limited amount, so have to set up authoritarian structures with strict loyalty rules and break everyone in the structure.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:26 AM
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4. I really have to post way out stuff to get any post replies. LOL
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 09:26 AM by RandomThoughts
It is incomplete form in post, since it is talking about something that depends on what you believe, what he believed, and correlations of similar events that have happened, and been reported by many people.



So hard to explain it except to say he was talking about some things that matches many other doctrines.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:41 PM
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9. Uhh its much simpler than that
Its called MENTAL ILLNESS..and it has to do with the amounts and balances of neurotransmitters in the brain. Oy. That and the fact that they see and hear about these people on TV all the time, so there's the stimulus...:eyes:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:30 PM
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11. My message to stalkers: let it end in a dirty sock
Look, you've confused the art with the artist. Stop. It's not logical.

If you really feel this way, make sure masturbation is a part of your life.

Let any connection end right there - with your eventual orgasm and release.

After that, there is nothing an entertainment vehicle can leave you with.
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