Charisma concept

[RandomThoughts]

I should explain thoughts on spiritual charisma.

Basically spiritual things can add a form of attraction to a person.

There is a reason for this, so that people with 'guidance' can be heard a bit more. It is so that things with some spiritual backing can share a thought with many people easier. And there are many examples of Charisma that is used to help society, most leaders have forms of charisma to help them get some message out.

The problem is the 'bad side that hate people' also have that ability to put charisma on people, or through people.

Each person has to decide when a Charisma is good or bad, my best guess on that is what is the method of charisma. If it is fear it is usually worse side, if it is love usually better side, although that is just my view. And also who or why does it help people, what effect does it have.


There are some people that do much good that have charisma for that reason of sharing thoughts. And some have bad charisma.

And Charisma can be added to, much of media loads up someones Charisma, either with negative effects to try and break that, or with better effects to enhance it.




The best example of someone showing what 'charisma' is or the effects of such things.

Genesis -Invisible Touch- The way we walk live 1992
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLDfrayAGM

Genesis - I Can't Dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiJBjv911VM

Also Phil Collins did the song Susido, which is about nothing, because he probably heard that he can say anything and it will work out, there is a concept to remove the appreciation of someones skills by trying to get them to think what ever they do will succeed, however that would be a test and not working for something. It is to remove a person from there own dreams, I know that doctrine, and try to avoid it, but do know help can still help when saying less, since the spiritual can still say something or add to a thought. But I think it is wrong to not try to strive for some goal to better understand both yourself, and the spiritual goals of those that support you.

Can you see what could be disagreed with and agreed with in this song? I understand the perspective, but disagree with it.
Phil Collins - In The Air Tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

There are some groups that can use that effect, or load that effect not for the better results for many people, and sometimes that is a problem.

So people should probably figure when it is for learning, love, or control.


Those effects explain how some things occur like some leaders picked because they have 'that special something' not about anything but having the Charisma. The problem is some times they are used against what that Charisma may be for by bad teaching, or showing them with false witness in many information forms to make what they do believe look worse.

That can also be how some don't think they need to be just, and how dictatorships happen. So if you can break those spells, then you can really see the person and appreciate there talents and achievements, and also see the spiritual 'adds' to them that help them and appreciate or beware of those things also.

That is why some think that anyone with power must be good, but they don't know that both sides, bad and good have the ability to add to a text, story, or song. So heart and reason is also needed for discernment.



Here is another example of it.

The Beatles - She Loves You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1g_o0ePWrw&feature=related


The thing is, the 'joy added' to many things are also to help people, so there is a difficult equation of understanding this stuff. If it takes the feeling from a song or story, that is bad, it is good to be able to enjoy with much feeling some song or story. But some are using those things for bad effects.


I learned that when I played a song for a person I respect that did not feel anything from it, and realized the feeling is being able to make a connection to the spiritual behind some concept also. And that is a interesting concept.


Here is the thing, the songs and stories I learn from, have a 'power behind them'(both good and bad), to be able to sync and here what they talk about, same with reading many texts, or listening to many people. That is sometimes a bad things sometimes a good thing, and adds to a song or story. But there is both good and bad in everything, so you have to pick how you see something.

But knowing how that happens helps protect against the bad stuff, and still feel and learn from the good stuff, people should have control over the doors of what they let in, by knowing when it is for informing and love, and when it is for something else.


I like this song. Note how the artist and singer uses her talents to sing about a condition that can help many people, with empathy and caring. I don't say what I think is inspired or not, but I can feel that song.

Donna Summer - She Works Hard For The Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKQcWEXSKU




The Mogadishu Mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpR8CWO0h9U

Another great soldier song.
Some of the ways to see that song, The "drowning of sorrows" is the breaking of the dam at Isenguard. with a comment about a really great person from the past, and a comment of a victory over a Balrog.

It also teaches the concept of the spiritual and the person, and looking through to the spiritual, both a concept for thinking and feeling on things, and also a way to get past blockers with much humility in that singers song.

[struggle4progress]

1. I do wish people wouldn't start talking about Charisma until after Thanksgiving

[RandomThoughts]

2. I had an error in my post.

It gives a bad indicator, by using fallen in the comment, it creates an issue of definition. All have fallen short.

So should not have used that comment, should have left it about those that do much good with help and some that don't.






And remember there are no spiritual deals, so much of the support someone gets, even in many of those situations in last post, can be something trying to get someone to think they do not have some talent or skill, when they do. Many times it requires a good heart of feeling to be able to sing beautiful songs that help many people.


This is a favorite song.

Sarah McLachlan - Fallen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqps9ZdMxs0

[Swede]

3. Charisma Carpenter

SHe was pretty good in Buffy and Angel.

[snooper2]

4. I charisma my motorcycle

but only when the shingles are showing signs of wear. Not real wear, but the type of wear you would think happens only on the moon when the people didn't really walk on it.

Sometimes charisma is opening a can of green beans and there are no pieces of drywall. I'm not sure but the dryawall eats at the south, while sometimes sitting on the curb the spider says hello.

Regardless, I think you have hit a nail not on the head, but on the side, where it is not quite straight and not quite crooked, just a nail with a hole. But it's not a hole as the nail is there. My Blackberry says it's time to let the nail go free but the spider is still scared.