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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:04 PM
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Poll question: The "Daylight-Savings Time" Poll: Isn't The Tilt Of The Earth Enough?
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 06:06 PM by Intelsucks
Why do we bother jacking around with the clocks twice a year anyway? Is it really necessary to have daylight until after 9:00PM in the middle of the Summer? I heard it was something that got started many, many years ago for farmers... All I have to say to that is...

FARMERS DON'T PUNCH CLOCKS!
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:06 PM
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1. Don't like it? Move to Arizona
They don't "jack up" their clocks. I like it - it mixes things up. Keeps us on our toes.

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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:08 PM
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3. I say "hats-off" to the states that say thanks, but no thanks.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:25 PM
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11. Big game tonight!
I can't stand the _allas Mavericks. Kick their asses.

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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:58 PM
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18. Oh Catzies - my boys are depressing the hell out of me right now
:-(

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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:07 PM
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2. Robb is a dingbat.
That was my other.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:09 PM
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4. Without Daylight Savings time
In the summer in the northern latitudes, days are 20 hours long AND start well before the average person gets up. This way, we get long days but at a time when we can enjoy them.
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:11 PM
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7. How far North are we talking about?
:shrug:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:37 PM
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13. 20 hour days?
Northern strip along the 48th parallel...Montana, Idaho, etc.
Certainly 17 hour days in the southern states in the summer, and the same thing still applies-sun comes up earlier than people want towake up...feh.
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:41 PM
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15. Down here, I guess we are actually the least affected because we
are closer to the Equator than the majority of the nation.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:43 PM
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16. Right
The variation gets more extreme as you move away from the equator.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:09 PM
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5. Is it still useful today? More like mucks things up. Why does everyone
continue to follow the clock shifts twice a year without complaint? Aren't there a couple of states that don't do it--and have yet to collapse into chaos? Or am I wrong?
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:10 PM
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6. It is necessary when you live on the Eastern edge
It gets light too early as it is in June and July. There is no reason that it needs to be light before 5 a.m., don't you think. I enjoy light into the evening. It helps keep me awake, happy, and active after I come home from work.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:17 PM
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8. It saves some energy at least.
Having light in the evening when you can use it saves some energy. You can use that natural light for getting things done rather than having to turn your lights on in your house. As it is, here in Seattle, it's light at 5 am during June. I'd rather have that extra hour of light at 9pm than 4am.
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:24 PM
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10. I guess there is a larger "swing" for some folks, depending on where
they live. Down here in Texas, I find it to be an annoyance. It takes me a month to recover from Springing forward.:-(
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Kholst Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:23 PM
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9. Common myth, but
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 06:26 PM by Kholst
Farmers had nothing to do with it. In fact, they usually oppose it more than most groups. It was an attempt to conserve energy first proposed by Ben Franklin (not really seriously ... he really just wanted people to alter their schedules with the seasons, not for the formal time to change), and first enacted during WWI by Germany (and soon after by the US and UK). In the US, it was repealed after the war ended, but reinstated during WWII. It was Irregularly applied in the US until the mid-sixties when the Uniform Time Act was passed. In the US, it saves about 1% of the day's energy usage per day during daylight saving time. In some countries, and certain parts of the US (depending on lattitude and closeness to the edge of the time zone), the savings are greater than the average.

btw, it's a pain in the ass to those of us in Indiana (and I imagine Hawaii and Arizona) that you guys all change and we don't.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:01 AM
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19. don't forget the oil crisis
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:01 AM by Kellanved
It is true that Germany tried daylight-saving time in 1916, but just once - it didn't work out.
The current European daylight saving time was introduced in 1996, but most member nations already had introduced it in the late 70s, during the oil crisis.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:36 PM
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12. I like the longer days -- changing the clocks forward is a ritual of sorts
It definitely communicates the fact that it *is* spring. Same with the fall (the "easy" change).

I wish we'd just leaves the clocks on spring-foward, but then it gets too dark in the mornings for school kids, etc.

Ever since I was a kid, daylight-saving time always meant good things: vacation, baseball, going to the beach, swimming, playing late. So yes, bring on DST!

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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:40 PM
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14. Guess it's different for me, not having grown up in the US, and I just
find it plainly annoying to keep shifting one's internal and wall clocks back and forth twice a year.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:55 PM
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17. The changes make absolutely no sense up here, for sure.
Why add an hour in the spring when we already have 18 hours of daylight by mid-April, then take away an hour of daylight when we're getting up and coming home from work in the dark?

On top of that, during Pipeline days, we shifted an hour in order to be more in line with businesses on the East Coast. Now, instead of a 5 hour time difference with New York, it's only 4. So, additional spring and fall shifts really play hell with the old body clock!

And my cats hate it!
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