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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:14 AM
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Queen Victoria: A Sugar Mama?
Queen Victoria's love for an Indian clerk revealed



A remarkable story of how an Indian brought to England to serve at a Buckingham Palace dinner became Queen Victoria's closest confidant is being unveiled in a new book.

The closeness of the 15-year relationship between the queen and her Muslim servant Abdul Karim, originally a clerk from Agra, so scandalised the royal court that, when Victoria died in 1901, her son, King Edward VII, ordered all records of the relationship, including correspondence and photographs, to be destroyed.

Karim might have remained a forgotten historical footnote had not the Kolkata-born author Shrabani Basu discovered, during research for a book she was writing on curry, that Victoria had ordered the dish to be on the royal menu daily during the final decade-and-a-half of her reign.

Intrigued, she started digging and, through a variety of sources, uncovered the "love story" of the Indian servant and the most powerful woman in the world... http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/south-asia/queen-victorias-love-for-an-indian-clerk-revealed



MILF?
GILF?
Cougar?
Sugar MaMa?

You decide... LOL :)
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:09 AM
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1. Well she was a widow and it was actually the norm among
the gentry men and woman to have discrete liaison's, albeit not with servants usually. Who knows what the relationship was, perhaps just someone she could talk to. Since her husband was dead and her son was quite the Lothario
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:35 PM
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2. I thought she had an affair with a Scottish manservant...
At least I remember watching a Judy Dench movie to that effect..."Her Majesty Mrs. Brown." She played the Queen...Billy Connelly played Mr. Brown, the servant.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:56 PM
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3. According to this article, the relationship with the Indian man
did not start until after Brown died.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:16 PM
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6. Oh my. Her Majesty had a fine, healthy appetite, then.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:51 PM
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11. She was only in her forties when Albert died
That's an awfully long time to be widowed.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 05:47 PM
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12. I love that some of the repressive nonsense we call "Victorian"..
...wasn't really all that "Victorian," if you take my meaning. Bless her.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:11 PM
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17. Besides, she had 9 kids with Prince Albert
She really was fruitful.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:00 PM
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4. MILF as in Monarch ILF?
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 01:01 PM by geardaddy
QILF?

No, that sounds too much like sommat else.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:41 PM
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7. QILF sounds nasty...
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:44 PM
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8. Doesn't it?
lol
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:41 PM
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5. How Queen Victoria Got Her Groove Back n/t
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:10 PM
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9. "We *are* amused."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:42 PM
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10. Minx!1 I love when Graham NORTON calls Liz-2 "that bitter GERMAN woman!1" n/t
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:29 AM
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13. Quite the early feminist. Vicky, (can I call her Vicky?) summed marriage in two words:
a bad bargain.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:56 AM
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14. She was just into it for the curry.
Yeahright
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:56 AM
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15. So, we can say he curried her favor???
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:02 AM
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16. Apparently she was insatiable.
Often, during the afterglow, she would turn to him and say, "Give me Samosa".
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