Firefox 4?

[Bossy Monkey]

Most recent update announced that Firefox 4 is here. Your thoughts?

[kentauros]

1. Firefox for what?

I use Opera 11. It's great! :D

And heavily copied by all the rest ;)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

2. Opera has some catching up to do in the Adblock department

I tried using it again...and Adblock worked fine...and all of a sudden I went back to a site where ads were being blocked and there were all the ads again.

My biggest beef with Firefox 4, so far, is that RoboForm no longer works. You have to upgrade to version 7, and the software vendor is charging an upgrade fee for it. Months and months and months of no new versions of RoboForm, and lo and behold, the minute Firefox 4 is released, here's version 7...por a price.

And yes, I know Opera has the "magic wand."

:-)

[kentauros]

3. The adblocking on Opera has never been that great,

but I'm not that bothered by it, either. If it's really annoying, I can shut off images and go into "User Mode" with a couple of clicks and no more ads (or not in a format that's annoying) ;)

If you like Firefox, that's fine, but I've been using Opera since version 3 and will likely remain with it 'til the end. I'm used to it. Plus, in the past versions of Firefox I have tried to give a chance at pleasing me, editing an ini-file is not my idea of "customizing" nor is it something I want to do (can't stand programming.) I have found the customizing method in Opera much easier and intuitive. Much of it is "drag & drop"; no editing required :D

[Amerigo Vespucci]

4. Same here...I used to pay for Opera, back in the day...

...and Firefox 3 definitely had some performance issues, which made me switch to Opera / Chrome / Safari on a regular basis. So we'll see...if Firefox 4 locks up as often as Firefox 3, there may be more Opera browsing on my horizon.

:toast:

[kentauros]

5. I used to pay for it, too!

I'm thinking I discovered it about the time Netscape stopped being a good browser, or started crashing a lot (v.4.75 I think.) Internet Exloder has only been a backup, and never a preferred option. Firefox never could woo me over, thanks to little things like not remembering all your tabs on close and where you were when you opened it again. That was before version 2, though I recall trying v.2 and it still didn't have that set of features standard on Opera. So, they lost me as a user, and I haven't looked back :)

I hope it remains stable for you as being unstable is probably the most frustrating thing of any piece of software!

:toast:

[Moondog]

6. Usually use Safari on my Mac, but use Firefox as a backup. Installed FF4

yesterday. It broke an add-in I use called 1Password which stores passwords in a heavily encrypted file, and then feeds the passwords in as needed when I log in somewhere. FF4 warned me that it would do that before I installed it, so I can't bitch too much. As of this moment, 1Password has not yet issued an update.

So what all this means is that until the add-in is fixed, I'm using Safari exclusively, because I am not even going to try to remember some of these obscure mixed character passwords that I've got. Other than that, FF4 does look pretty good. Seems quick, responsive.

[Bossy Monkey]

7. I went ahead and got it. Can't say I'm best pleased.

The button that allowed you to pull down a history of your current session and return to any of those pages is gone. You now find it on a Firefox tab at the top left. It's just one more click and a little more mousery, but still an annoying and unneeded extra step.

No other problems that I've noticed yet.

[Bossy Monkey]

8. Turns out that you get your session history by right-clicking the Back One Page button

soooo less annoying than I thought.

[mvd]

10. Layout is different, and I was used to where things like bookmarks were before

Also has crashed a Nvidia driver.

[KamaAina]

9. May get it this weekend

not worth using scarce weeknight computer time to download.

[Bossy Monkey]

11. Download wasn't bad at all; comparable to a YouTube video

even on dial-up. I wasn't paying close attention; seemed like a half hour or so.