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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:21 PM
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Poll question: Are all threads on DU constructive?
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:24 PM
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1. Let's hope not.
:shrug:
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:34 PM
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2. No.
Thanks to Cantor's axiomitization of set theory, they don't have to be.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:43 PM
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3. That's a very specialized sense of the word "constructive."
Anyway, I think that some people having surnames starting with "Z" and "F" (for example) have more to do with the actual formulation of the axioms. Cantor provided the initial inspiration, but not the details.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:51 PM
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4. Maybe so, but Fraenkely I don't think we'd have set theory without Cantor.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:44 PM
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7. Nonsense. The Dedekind cuts predate Cantor's set theory; and since Dedekind later also
gave the modern set-theoretic explication ("ideal") of Kummer's ideal numbers, it seems likely such ideas were fermenting in his head as well in the 1870s. Of course, his friendship with Cantor after 1874 may have helped a bit too
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:38 PM
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6. You don't know how to spell "axiomatization," Cantor never axiomatized set theory,
and there aren't any constructive axiomatizations of set theory

:bounce:

Carry on!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:10 PM
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5. Define constructive n/t
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:45 PM
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8. construct this!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:26 PM
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9. Nice post, Hitler.
:hi:

Bake
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 10:32 PM
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10. Do they have to be?
:shrug:

I say no, they don't have to be.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:09 AM
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12. They don't have to be constructive, but ...
that a thread is deemed to not be constructive is reason enough for it to be locked.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 10:53 PM
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11. know
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:59 PM
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13. I come to DU for tips on putting up drywall.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:51 PM
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14. The more constructive they are, in terms of pushing the democratic agenda ahead, the
more they get unrec'd!!! Grrrrrrr
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 10:13 PM
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15. FUCK YES!!1!! All DU threads are important and constructive. Especially the kitten threads!
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