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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:27 PM
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Medusa story.
Posted before how stone is spirit after life, and tree is living or life.

Interestingly this is in more then wood and stone craft.

Remember the story of Medusa, she turned people 'to stone' that is a euphemism for dying or becoming spirit, depending on how you see it.

Interestingly, in that story, what is seeing something in the mirror, seeing something the other way around, reversed. So how do you defeat Medusa, reverse the bad and find the good in what you see.

See the bad in a mirror, by finding the good that is also in anything.

Favorite song I been listening to for a few days.

Going to California by Led Zeppelin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVLlnQ08OA


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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:16 PM
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1. they just had a segment on Medusa on the history channel earlier this morning
I noticed when I was surfing.

Interesting about the stone/spirit metaphor.

is there a metaphor for salt, I wonder....
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:33 AM
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9. Yea, seen some of the History channel stuff.
They bounce off many things in choice of shows, see many correlations in the choice of there programming.


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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:15 PM
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2. I've always thought the reason trees are so magical is because we used to live in them.
It's like a remembrance of home.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:18 PM
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3. You have heard that doctrine. Not many know that angle
Along with the concept of Big Brain Doctrine, where people had a brain boost of Knowledge of good and evil, the idea that sentience thought is that effect. And that the pain in child birth is from big brain box, as is 'working the fields' since thought leads to ambition.

There is also another correlation in that story.

The snake thrown down from the tree, is to say those of big brain, also used to be in trees, before brain boost. Again a comment that original sin was moving people from ape form to thinking feeling sentient form.

I don't follow the beliefs of that doctrine. But much of writings were inspired to say that people should be followers without thought and feeling and are just dumb animals.

Note that much of the writings in Genesis, as they are now, are not an accurate description of the all powerful all loving God, but are a bias entered in by a group that believed in lack of education against people. And that believe people are either less evolved, or should be less evolved.


If you remove the fear of things that have not earned respect by lack of just actions, not paying beer and travel money that is due, or attempts to remove beer and travel money, and since fear of evil is wrong, then you can quickly see the contradiction in the current telling of many stories.

I believe the knowledge of good and evil is claiming to know what is right and wrong with certainty, instead I think people should use thought and feeling on what is right or wrong, knowing a person wont always be correct.


A favorite song.

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCQTr8ZYdhg


Just like the story of Abraham and his son was changed from thinking and feeling to blind followship, most of the recorded history tries to create a wrong impression of events in my view. I believe that story was someone, Micheal in my view, stopping Abraham from doing wrong by blind followship. Why would God need to tell him to do something everyone else was already doing, then stop him. And there is no lesson in that story, since if you believe God will stop you from 'doing wrong' if you do by faith or trust, you are not 'sacrificing' anything anyway, since by the teachings of that story, you would think you would be stopped from doing it anyways. On a side note, I don't think a just and loving God needs sacrifice, but sometimes in struggles in life there are sacrifices made. Not to honor a false God, like in the child sacrifices of old, but because sometimes tough choices lead to some hardships.

Just like I don't think generational punishment for sin is done by a just and loving God. Would you respect someone that threatens your children to get you to do something? I think that is one of the reasons why in the movie Gladiator the false emperor was standing behind a child.

I think Generational sin, is more about the effect of how your actions reflect on how people think of others in your family, not by curse by divinity, but by effect from actions done.

To think God would curse someones children for what someone else had done, or use that as a threat, is not something worthy of respect of followship.

I think the True God of love and kindness, tries to help people learn that there actions effect more then just themselves, but also can create hardship for people around them, if they do things that hurt there reputations or standing in a societal group.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:30 PM
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4. Also note that some groups.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 11:44 PM by RandomThoughts
Have rules to leave peoples families alone, the mob for many years had a leave peoples families alone rule, and a rule that those not corupted can not be targeted.

It is an odd thing that the Mob, shows better character then the wrong interpretations in some texts of what people were told God would do.

Things like eternal damnation, or threats on children, or the other unjust actions, like the failure to correct the beer and travel money that is due, shows what some think is 'God' is not.

However, there are many more accurate comments in those same texts without the 'bias'. Some of the older texts are to make excuses for peoples choice of actions, and trying to explain things to fit into a social situation that transfers blame away from the actions of people, to some claimed divine action.

The social laws of the time were to help people. The punishment explanation was meant to be educational explanation. Don't mess up, since it creates issues with those you love when you do things wrong in society. Not if you mess up, your children will be smited. It is a bad translation in my view.

If you can say someone is effected by divine action for some action, then you can break empathy and not help them, but a thinking feeling person would also question if such actions are correct. Then if they saw what some would say is a divine retribution, yet that retribution is evil, or outside of justice and compassion, they would assist those people, knowing that helping those in strife is the action the One True God of love and kindness teaches people should follow.


Although tree is living, stone is dead. and the use of tree, weather birds nesting, or branches, or even some of the doctrines in many other cultures, Midgard tree, Stonehenge ring of wood outside ring of stone. and many other same examples, are part of many things.

I still spell Michael, as Micheal many times. Funny that is. :)
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:19 AM
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5. The other big culture stream, European mythos, gives trees a big play too.
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 12:21 AM by dimbear
Not just the Druids with their oaks and mistletoe, but the tree Yggdrasil and so on.

And in the racial memories of those trees, preserved by generations of nursemaids and governesses, is the tree which stars in "Jack and the Beanstalk." Yggdrasil redivivus.

Lots of this stuff in "The Golden Bough." :)



edited to through another g in Yggdrasil.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 12:19 AM
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6. I wanted to add something here.
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 12:51 AM by RandomThoughts
Seeing the good in Medusa, is knowing she was treated wrong in that legend, not the taking of her head, that part of the story is of bias of war.

In truth seeing the good in Medusa is seeing the wrong she suffered, then the rejection in that story, when she did not do wrong.

To see the good in Medusa is to heal the sorrow, not to take the head. So not only is it seeing the good in things, but when possible trying to do better yourself.

I think this singer, my current favorite of singers, shows such better thoughts in many songs, and her songs have helped me think on many things, to sing and write such songs, I think she feels in many of the better ways.


Been listening to this song for a couple days.

Sarah McLachlan - Answer
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43tnz_sarah-mclachlan-answer_music



Side note, SO Holy, Significant Other, Holly from Die Hard.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:10 AM
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7. Side Note
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 03:14 AM by RandomThoughts
Medusa taking up position, end of line for Troops safety. Welcome aboard dear. :)

Boston - Don't Look Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiOqHLVxZvA

Roger that.


Well maybe a little :)

Going to California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVLlnQ08OA


300 / HIM - Don't Fear the Reaper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3h70aRFxQ
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 04:15 AM
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8. .
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 04:20 AM by RandomThoughts
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