One of the hardest traps.

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It is difficult becuase of how easy it can manufacture taunts.

It has been posted on two threads, just recently.

It is the taunt that all you do is stolen to be used by others while you 'lose' it is actually part of doctrine. The concept that people get 'farmed' for what they are willing to give or share, while those that will take get from them since they have the role to get things from everyone else.

It is the idea that giving is wrong, the sucker comment is from that.

It says those that try to do better without setting a fee or retribution, are suckers.

It requires no belief in justice to believe that, however belief in justice allows for taunts like that to be seen differently.

It is in many things that comment, that thought, mostly for rationalization I would guess.

If the material is all that exist, or the only part of life, then that would be true. But if there is more, you can't know, that is how that taunt is dispersed. Besides, it is best to do what you think is best, even if someone steals without proper action to the one stolen from, then to do what some think of as winning. Where I believe if they take your jacket give them your coat comes from. That is also the doctrine where someone that tries to do better, is said to be in the flaw of claiming to be 'good' and should do wrong since all are flawed. In that doctrine it says those that do good, are punished for thinking they can be good. You see that doctrine as a way to burn out conscious also.



It is a choice, there is also a flaw if they think they can calculate what winning is. And from that make some decision based on picking a winning side. If you choose to 'do' by trying to pick the winning side, anyone can direct you by telling you what winning means. "The one with the most toys when they die wins" that is an example of that. Although if you do what you know is wrong and think it is winning, what do you gain. While if you do what you feel you must by best decision of what is right by learning, even with losing outcome by observational effect, but knowing that it is a choice, then you can not be driven by delusions of what is winning.

And you really can't know what winning is. And even if you are wrong, then you still did what you felt was best by thought and feeling, not what advances some idea of what you are told is winning. So much of that explains the difference from those that believe in things like Karma, and Justice, and even and afterlife, and those that believe those things are created by people, becuase that group believes existence is not just, and it is only what you can get from anywhere with any method that matters.

I think that is one of the reasons I like this song so much.

"Hey BOB, soup had a straight job, even though he could have smashed through any bank, he would not."

Crash Test Dummies: Superman's Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUIPlLw2ZE

(side note, if you see Tarzan and apes comments by race, you are being blocked)

And I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences

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1. Some interesting thoughts.

"You cant handle the truth" That is from that idea, where there is life, then death, and there is no justice, that is that belief, it says people that believe in a form of justice can't handle what that group thinks of as there reality of existence being unjust.

"Dont be a child and grow up" is also thought of that way many times, where those that think in ideas of justice are said to be childish, or dreamers and not in reality of observation. The idea that adults don't need fairy tales of some just honorable thing that is existence. Again that presumes that there is nothing but life then you die.

"Dreamer" also fits, where people tell you to get a real view, based on what they think reality is.



I really like what is said in the movie Equilibrium, And it explains most of it.

The Dreamer, simply quoted a poem. "Being poor, all I have is my dreams, I slide them under your feet, tread softly" Then he is shot.

But then the character that did that shooting becomes his vengeance in a far bigger way.

Really fascinating play on the concept of holding true and vengeance.

Equilibrium - Requiem for a dream.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QQXOvRLkls

Note that the prologue is the side that believes in not feeling, and is actually the bad side in that movie, but only when the Cleric learns to feel. I often wonder how many loses he would have avoided if he had learned earlier in that movie. His partner, his wife. Fascinating movie.

It should be noted, some will see it as some form of sacrifice, I see it as him never having to have done those things if he would have learned sooner. In that it is more of an awakening story, in my view