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Fri Apr-02-04 01:34 PM
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Name A Right That A Straight WM Has Ever Had To Fight For..... |
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Seriously, think about it and let me know.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:35 PM
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1. Change the title to straight white rich male and I'll agree. |
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Otherwise, I'll introduce you to the Trade Union movement.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:37 PM
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6. Yep, many persecuted white people have existed and will continue to exist |
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You could say they have had much less of a battle in this country than others, but you can't say that persecution has only been along gender or racial lines.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:41 PM
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13. Depends if you consider Independence from an Empire a right. |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:46 PM
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25. You are right. Let's make that a straight, white rich male. |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:48 PM
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That was me hopping on board.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:37 PM
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5. I knew that was coming eventually! |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:36 PM
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taking leave to care for wife and new baby, etc.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:38 PM
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:39 PM
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8. the right to have custody of one's children after divorce |
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or sometimes, even to see one's children
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:32 PM
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38. This was gonna be my answer n/t |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:39 PM
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9. The right not to be stereotyped as simply a 'Straight WM'. |
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In fact, the battled is still engaged, we are all still fighting to be judged as individuals rather than as a 'Straight WM' or a 'Gay BF' etc.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:40 PM
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10. Custody rights as a parent |
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Fri Apr-02-04 02:03 PM
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Not fun. Your ex can act like Courtney Love and still get the kids, but YOU have to look and act like Mr. Rogers to get custody.
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Fri Apr-02-04 02:16 PM
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luckily my kids were young, and don't have a good memory of the trials and tribulations.
long story, short version: I was given full custody, they are happy well adjusted teens.
i couldn't have asked for more. dp
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:40 PM
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11. The right to marry a black woman (n/t) |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:41 PM
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12. the right to be seen as not part of the problem |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:41 PM
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14. the right to collective barganing |
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Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 01:42 PM by KG
unionizing.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:42 PM
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15. The right to not practice a religion |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 PM
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18. or, sometimes. the right to practice a religion. |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:42 PM
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16. the right to be single without people thinking he's gay or a pedophile |
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or otherwise just an odd bat
(same goes for the single women as well, of course)
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 PM
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21. You said it, daddy-o! |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 PM
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17. hey man, straight WM's have fought HARD for the right... |
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to own slaves
to lynch blacks
to restrict women's voting rights
etc
:silly:
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 PM
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19. right to collective bargaining and organized labor |
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I think that would count. It wasn't until the 1820s, fifty years after the Revolution, that all US citizens were allowed to vote (citizens being white men, regardless of sexual orientation). Before that time, property restrictions limited the franchise only to the wealthy.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:44 PM
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23. The right to self-governance, and the right not to be ruled by |
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foreign powers, like Japan, Germany, Britain, etc.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:46 PM
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24. The rights of others? I have a vested interest in them |
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I can't think of a right that has been denied me *because* I'm a straight white male, but I can think of instances in which being a straight white male hasn't excluded me from being opressed. Being called "faggot" in High School wasn't prevented by being a straight white male. Being called "trailer-trash" is probably at least partly a function of being white. Just because those societal labels do not lead to discrimination towards me in general it does not nessecarily follow that as a straight white male I've never had to fight for my rights. There was the little matter of the restraunt I worked at where the hispanic kids specifically exluded me from having bacon for breakfast one day. Not that I want to make a big deal about it, but that is an example of being treated unfairly because of who I am.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:47 PM
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26. To be free of the rule of England - remember? n/t |
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:48 PM
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28. The right to apply for a "United Negro College Fund" grant |
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The right to lactate
The right to join the YWCA
The right to apply for a business grant under a minority status.
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:54 PM
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29. Lactating is not a right, men can join the YWCA, and |
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Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 02:08 PM by Iris
how about joining the Lions Club or the Rotary Club or something to help with your business prospects?
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Fri Apr-02-04 01:59 PM
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Smoke grass, and the right to drink alcohol. I guess those count....right?
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Fri Apr-02-04 02:02 PM
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31. The Vote, Religion, right to unionize |
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The right to own property, the right not to have your wife slept with by a lord on your wedding night, the list goes on and on.
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Fri Apr-02-04 02:14 PM
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33. The right to enter his county courthouse |
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The straight WM in question uses a wheelchair. http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/drn/tennvlane011204.htmlDisability rights activists plan to crawl up the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court at 9 a.m.tomorrow as oral arguments begin in the case Tennessee v. Lane. Activists in San Diego, Sacramento, Memphis and cities in Texas will be "Crawling for Justice" at federal court houses as well.
"The event is intended to illustrate the humiliation George Lane and others have been forced to endure," says ADAWatch.. Lane, one of the plaintiffs, had to crawl up the stairs to a Tennessee courtroom because the courthouse, like many in Tennessee, was not accessible, in violation of Title 2 of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Lane, who lost a leg in a traffic accident, went to the Polk County courthouse in September 1996 to answer charges of driving with a revoked license.
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:05 PM
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35. We can't join the "Black Caucaus" |
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We can't join the "Hispanic Caucaus"
and we sure can't start a Caucasian Caucaus!
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:29 PM
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36. The right not to be company property. The right not to be killed on a job. |
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The right to not have to work as a child. The right to collective bargaining. The right to make a living wage. The right to worship (or not) as he chooses. The right to not take up arms and kill if his spiritual background prevents him from doing so. The list is long.
There have always been WEALTHY straight WM, and then there are the rest of us. True, we may not have all the cards in the deck stacked against us, but it has been a long, historic haul for *all* who have had to fight for a decent living in this world.
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:31 PM
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37. non-rich land owning White Males |
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in the U.S. couldn't vote at one time.
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:40 PM
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39. The right to say things.. |
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without always being accused of racism, sexism, homophobia. In many cases the accusations are right, but there are exceptions.
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Fri Apr-02-04 04:56 PM
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40. Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous |
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One can support the rights of minorities, and women, etc, and not also have to shit on white men. This country was founded by persecuted white men, after all.
And I suppose that not everyone considers Jewish people to be caucasian, but lord knows Jews have had to fight for their rights constantly.
Point being, let's try to be constructive instead of starting "bash whitey" posts like this one.
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