What drugs are the best.....

[Khephra]

if they were legal....

:evilgrin:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. All of the above!

[sniffa]

2. toker

i hit the trees harder than sonny bono, but i had to pick other. ecstasy

[stinkeefresh]

5. yeah, e is the one drug

that I would recommend for anyone. and frankly, you only have to take it once to improve the rest of you life.

and what about good old mushrooms!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. E is fucking horrible for you

And as you can tell, this is coming from someone that has done a lot of drugs. E is in my category of "don't touch" along with heroin (needles=bad), crack (instant death possibility), and cocaine (ditto).

[Lizz612]

15. I agree.

E has too much variability in it. Its a pill, so its really easy for it to be something other than what they say it is. 1 in 12 people have a lethal reaction to it, on the first time, because their bodys can't digest it. EDIT: see my post below for a better explanation. It also causes the "pruning " of nerves in the brain at normal doses, as opposed to other drugs which require large doses and/or long term use before nerves are "pruned."

All info from "Illegal Drugs; A Complete Guide to their History Chemistry Use and Abuse" by Paul M. Gahlinger, MD PhD

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

17. I'd like to see the source...

on that 1 in 12 have a lethal reaction on the first time.

[Lizz612]

19. Sorry I should re-word that

Let me quote the book.
"In October 1993, the Department of Medicine and Pharmacology at Sheffield University in Britain put out an explanation of the "sudden death syndrome." They discovered that about 1 in 12 individuals lack the enzyme cytochrome P450-246, needed to metabolize MDMA (the chemical acronym for E). Without this enzyme, the person is susceptible to a fatal reaction to the drug."
So yes I think I summarized that wrong, 1 in 12 may lack the enzyme and this can lead to a fatal reaction. Thanks for catching that.

[amazona]

23. OK but it doesn't seem like it can be true

I don't want to call your book a liar but Ecstasy was a legal OTC pill in the United States for many years in the late 1970s and early 1980s (until the Reagans got wind of it) and no one was ever harmed by it when it was legal. Any "sudden death syndrome" was unheard of in those days.

I don't know what to think but it's certainly odd how drugs suddenly become more dangerous after they've been scheduled.

It seems likely to me that people in the late 1970s had much the same genetics as people in the 1990s and some of them are even the same people ... it's studies like this that make all drug studies appear bogus. There may be some rare hazard or side effect to E. but whether it is more dangerous than, say, ginkgo (a popular herbal supplement) is open to question in my mind.

On Edit -- I hope it is clear that I am not doubting your sincerity or experiences. I have to admit that I have some doubts about this study, perhaps unfairly, though.

[Lizz612]

37. Can I see your source?

You can go ahead and doubt my experiences, because I have none. I'm just a first year college student who finds illegal substances and their effect on the brain interesting.
MDMA was used in the 70's by psychiatrists, but was never approved by the FDA for anything, much less OTC. It was never for sale by a pharmaceutical company. It was made illegal in 1986 under Reagan. Again this is from Gahlinger.
I have clearly stated my source, can you state yours? Is this just from you're experience? If so I wont argue with that, seeing as its first hand, but you must take into account your own personal sample size.

[dawn]

34. Well, it can be if you do it too many times.

I loved it though! Only took it three times, back in the late 90s when I lived in London.

I heard if you take it too many times, it may not be possible to ever be happy again naturally. Is that true?

[mdmc]

42. lol

harder than sonny bono

[chelsea0011]

3. The drug of life, man

:hippie: :hippie: :hippie:

[Supormom]

4. Organic Wine

From the Organic Wine Company, of course!

http://www.theorganicwinecompany.com

[Exultant Democracy]

6. Yes please.

[Wickerman]

8. Hash

not that I would - it just looked so lonely there, all by itself, uh, nevermind...

[jpgray]

9. Most people will not have tried all these drugs, so booze and pot will win

I think. :scared:

[VOX]

10. *cough* You mean *cough-cough* they're *cough* NOT legal? *cough*

:evilgrin:

[Snow]

11. Opiates, man - how could you leave that out?

a few puffs on the old hubble-bubble pipe, and headache's gone!

[khashka]

39. Damn right!

Opiates rule! That lovely mellow feeling... and the ultimate drug for long, slow, wonderful sex....

Khash.

[loftycity]

12. All should be legal it's time to let us decide for ourselves and enjoy

our own little getaways in the privacy that we earned by living and promised to us by this country.

[redqueen]

20. Right on!

FREEDOM!

[cheezus]

13. What about OxyCotin? What if Rush wanted to vote???

[Elidor]

14. Where's the shrooms?

I want shrooms.

[DrWeird]

16. Oh, but what will the freepers think?

They'll just cut and paste this and make us look bad. Bitch bitch moan bitch moan moan bitch.

[frylock]

18. trees

[redqueen]

21. I wanted to vote for pot, but

EVERYONE without a history of serious mental illness in their family should do Acid at least ONCE.

I think it does something to your brain that opens you up to the idea of us all being one. Dig?

:hippie:

[AlecBGreen]

22. i dig it

everyone who can should try it once, but it is not something to be taken lightly

[redqueen]

28. Good qualifier

Everyone who can. It can really mess with your head if your chemistry isn't what it should be.

[Dr Fate]

36. Ha ha! Who ever does it ONCE?

Come on!!!

[everythingsxen]

24. I voted other because...

while I would like to see pot/hash be legal; I have a great love of opiates.

Codeine and morphine.. mmmmmmm.... I can only imagine what heroin would be like.

Not that I would ever do heroin. It is too addictive.

I have tried opium a few times though and that was goooooood. It was like weed only without that cloudy-headed stupidity I usually get when get with weed.

[redqueen]

26. This thread makes me want to hear QOTSA

Either "Feel Good Hit of the Summer" or "Better Living Through Chemistry".
:)

[everythingsxen]

31. Hehe..

We get these pills to swallow
How they stick
In your throat
Tastes like gold

[redqueen]

33. Right on. :-)

The blue pill opens your eyes
Is there a better way
A new religion prescribed
To those without the faith

[Champ]

25. Green and natural all the way

:smoke:

[absyntheNsugar]

27. Marijuana is safe and harmless - Hash however is not

Hash, having high amounts of chemicals other than THC (I forget their names) that induce the 'drowsy' effect of Marijuana can lower your heart rate to a dangerous point.

Plain marijuana, however, doesn't have enough of these checmicals to do any harm.

[Ramsey]

29. Love is the drug

And that's all I need!

[smirkymonkey]

30. Booze is legal...

but hangovers suck!

[Nikia]

32. Pot is good stuff

But I don't want to go into a long detailed explanation of my love of the drug. I might have to take a preemployment drug test soon and I don't want to be overly tempted by fantasizing about it.

[IronLionZion]

35. booze will be legal for me soon

but out of the others, I'd say pot. It's the only one I do.

[SOteric]

38. Chocolate.

[Bride of Cthulhu]

44. I concur

:evilgrin:

[MrSlayer]

40. Pot rules. Legalize it!

[Nevernose]

41. IF YOU VOTED FOR POT

Or anything but LSD, then you've obviously never dropped acid. Or at least not with a band of roaming hippies...Fuck, where's my copy of Dick's Pick's Volume Four?
:evilgrin:

[Flowerchild73]

43. Peace, love, happiness

Nothing wrong with a few tokes off the peace pipe.

[arewethereyet]

45. none

legal or otherwise.

have a beer if you insist

[SarahB]

46. Sudafed

When a stuffy nose gets really bad and natural methods aren't working, it's heavenly. :)