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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:29 PM
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Poll question: Is logic the only truth?
yes or no?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:32 PM
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1. That's so Vulcan!
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 03:32 PM by StClone
:-)
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Asteroid Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:34 PM
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2. This is too much deep stuff for a Saturday n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:44 PM
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6. No, Vulcans wuold say that logic is the PATH to truth
but not that logic IS truth.

I also say that logic is not truth - it is only a tool to truth, like intuition, emotion, and spirituality.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:35 PM
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3. no
There is also the ZombyTroof, which is the best kind. :-)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:42 PM
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5. We must learn to thread water/swim in deep water, else we drown
Logic tells us the answers we are looking for lies in the direction of Math. The Odds and Ratios things.

Obviously, Bush gives us Humans poor odds for a better life. For HIM and HIS friends it would be but instead he furthers the economic division leading to discord. We need better systems that gives us better Ratios and Odds... its the Logical way, but alas, rejected for its depth and complexity.

The Sheep want Simple. The Herders give them what they want and can comprehend.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:39 PM
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4. No. I believe intuition can be the direct perception of truth
and it isn't always arrived at logically.
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gold_bug Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:44 PM
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7. logic is only a "truth game"
"Logic is a set of rules governing consistency in the use of a language ... logic is language about language, not language about things or events ..."
--S. I. Hayakawa, "Language in Thought and Action" (Fifth Edition); Chapter Eleven
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 01:24 AM
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18. Ah hah! General Semantics rears it's ugly head!
If only it did so more often!

Khash.
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:46 PM
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8. No!
Logic is a TECHNIQUE, for crying out loud. Not a source of core values.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 03:52 PM
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9. Logic helps you find the truth...
...if you already know what's treu.

--IMM
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:28 PM
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10. If I think this is not an either/or question, does that mean
the answer is no?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:38 PM
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11. Deduction Only Covers a Fraction of the World
Observation is the only truth.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:05 PM
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13. Observation can only yield appearance, not truth.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:58 PM
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12. No
And when I started living a better balance away from logic, I started understanding and getting along with people better.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:13 PM
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14. logic is just a tool
process is not product, or is it?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:14 PM
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15. The truth is what I say it is.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:53 PM
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16. Kick
:kick:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 01:22 AM
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17. Lewis Carroll onced logically proved
that all dowagers are thistles.

"Logic is simply the ability to be wrong with authority!" - Doctor Who.

It's neither truth nor not-truth, merely a tool for manipulating information. The best tool we have, maybe, but just a tool. It's the premises you start out with that determine the value of the logic.

Khash.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 01:44 AM
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19. GIGO
:shrug:
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