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DarkSim Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:19 AM
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What does Condi mean by...
"We used Sticks and Carrots in our policy on Pakistan"?

Makes no sense to me.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:19 AM
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1. we beat the pakis with sticks
when they didn't eat their carrots.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:19 AM
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2. She's thinking about the men in her life
Sorry.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:21 AM
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5. ROFL...
Funny, I was just wondering what sort of underwear Condi has on today. Is it black lace gear, or has she gone for the more conservative touch?
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:20 AM
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3. Let them eat...
...rabbit food? Then beat them up for whatever reason.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:20 AM
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4. You know, carrots and sticks.
Would you encourage the donkey to do what you want by promising it a carrot, or would you rather encourage it by hitting it with a really big stick?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:28 AM
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6. Powell is doing that now. He is giving the store away for what they do....
for us now or were doing.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:29 AM
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7. that is Condi-speak for...
Caspian oil pipeline

'Carpet of Gold, Carpet of Bombs and all that'
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:34 AM
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8. so, * can grasp the concepts ... now, we have 2 sticks and 2 carrots ...
the sticks are the carpet of bomb choice; carrots represent gold, IOW $$$$$$ ... the first choice, the everyday citizen will 'get it'; the other, only a small percentage of people, the elite, will 'get it'
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 08:58 AM
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9. It comes from an old fable.
A man need to get his donkey to move, but the stuborn beast won't. So he toes a carrot on a stick and hold it out in front of the donkeys head. The donkey being hungry walks to the carrot which move away from him as he walks. So he keeps chasing a carrot he won't catch, and the man gets his way.

Unfortunately most people are too stupid to actually read the fable and use it in the context of a carrot reward if you do what we want, and a beating with a stick if you don't. That's the context Condi is using it in.

Hope this helps.
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:02 AM
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10. yes, and no matter how far the donkey travels
he cannot reach the carrot because it is dangling on a string in front of him. In other words, we are making empty promises to the Pakistan gov't to achieve cooperation.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:14 AM
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11. Taking the analogy literally yes.
However the term "carrot and stick" has come to mean somthiong very different these days.
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