YES, THEY STOLE ANOTHER ELECTION--WHAT DO WE DO???

[Dancing_Dave]

They'd been planning to steal it some informed citizens noticed in adance how the systematic, nation-wide scam to steal an election was being fixed, and predicted on Nov.1 that it would be stolen. Check out http://liberty.hypermart.net/index.html

We need to get a both a popular protest movement and a legal team to prosecute the largest case of systematic voter fraud in U.S. History,

If we don't do it, every election from now on will be fixed and stolen, and we will have lost our Democracy forever.

We don't have very much time left if we want to save Democracy, let's get going!!!

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[KingChicken]

3. I'll take out three, just give me a few minutes.

[brainshrub]

9. Grow up & be serious.

Besides, the Republicans are much more efficient at killing things.

[BayStateBoy]

15. Here are some suggestions on what we can do....

1. Anyone tired or in a trance, get out of it and try to make others do likewise. Repukes depend upon us falling into catatonic states while they scheme away and we lose valuable time. Then they run rings around us and we wonder why.

2. Pursue every avenue of investigation into the integrity of the voting in OH & FL. I suspect that the Mother Lode of tampering is in Brother Jeb's Fiefdom. Don't worry about whether we will ever be able to prove anything, let's just do everything to spread the word and support groups willing to investigate.

This will have to be done without either Kerry or the DNC. Too bad folks like Michael Moore are in coma; the RNC depends on us doing that. We can live without Moore, but we do need Soros. Maybe Soros should meet the Bev and the BBV group and finance their voting fraud investigations?

3. Objective of #2 should not so much be to try to get reversal of the election results as to permanently (re)stain Chimp and create a stench, no matter how small, that will persist and erode. The true gift that keeps on giving. If more results occur, so much the better...but if 1/2 the nation suspects another stolen election and retains that opinion, then we have stolen much from Asshole. Get the message out. Remember in politics, casting doubt can be as good or better than proof.

4. Regroup and remember we are 1/2 of America. The media can say what they please, but it is our voices (media blaster) that will be heard and our boots that will demonstrate. Give Asshole a Hell on Earth and never surrender to "spare the country" some presumed ordeal or inconvenience.

Bush may rule, but we will make certain that he can never govern.

An illegitimate President reelected by a tainted election, remains illegitimate.

The Bush "mandate" is an Electoral WMD

5. We must do something to give backbone to those Democratic pricks in the Congress. We needed someone like Hillary for Minority Leader and we got Weenie Reid, the rollover dummie. OMG!

Instruction to Dems in Congress are very simple: 100% opposition to Bush 100% of the time. Those that cooperate with Chimp, let's try to get rid of them in 2006. That's the only active political block that we have so everything has to go into toilet training our respective congressional members. This will be very crucial but labor intensive.

[KingChicken]

2. I agree, but we must consider the obstacles

If they controlled the actual voting then I’m sure they are ready to scam us on any recount, they probably made off with the ballots. Right now we need solid evidence to get this stuff into the news.

[Dancing_Dave]

4. There is plenty of solid evidence!

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php
http://liberty.hypermart.net/index.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/PAR410A.html

We need to get a popular protest movement together, and also a real legal effort to bring to justice those who steal elections--otherwise they'll just steal every single one from now on.

[Nay]

7. Good heavens, can't the ACLU run with the evidence? What

organizations are in line to fight and prosecute voter fraud? Why do we always have to wait for some poor voter to file a suit?

[w13rd0]

5. Fuck the news...

...the corpowhore media says what it wants to say. Facts, feelings, the people, pffaa, that shit don't matter to them.

[Dancing_Dave]

6. I share your sentiments....

But at least we should be able to get local stories of vote fraud and disenfranchizement into local papers near where they happen, and help reporters to understand that this is also a pattern that's been repeated all over the nation: a massive, systematic and illegal election rigging scam.

[Dancing_Dave]

8. More information on how the election was stolen

Information on how the election was rigged and stolen just keeps streaming in:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/PAL411A.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MOO407A.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHI411A.html
http://www.legitgov.org/essay_kane_fema_terror_drill_102904.html


And so on and so forth and what we gonna do now...

[brainshrub]

10. Let's follow Kerry's example and surrender!

[mahina]

11. This election was lost with lies. While we still know who our * supporting

neighbors are, we HAVE to give them the correct information.
Today I was standing in line at the bank and three ladies were repeating * lies about Kerry as if it was God's own truth, finishing each others arguments. They were repeating false information. They never received the real story.
We all talk to each other but we have to talk (write, leave info in mailboxes, on car windshields, in letters to the editor, in paid ads, ***get the newspapers that supported Kerry to do fact checking*****
Kerry was smeared and the smears are still believed.
* lied 24-7. If we let this wait it will seep into public knowledge just like Al Gore said he invented the internet, even more than it already has.
More importantly they need to know that they have been lied to so they will be a little less bovine next time, with any luck.
Unlike F911 this is a disributed widespread action that requires many many hands. Please share this idea with your email list. Please forgive me for cross-posting this idea mods, I feel it is a time sensitive opportunity.

ALSO while we're at it is is imperative that we stay in touch as a network- all your email lists are extremely important organizing tools. Please save them!!! The race for 2006 leg etc starts TODAY
With deep aloha

[tommcintyre]

12. First, we must educate. Then action will follow.

I am amazed, even in knowledgable circles, how many don't understand we didn't lose, they didn't win. The election was stolen bigtime. So those of us that "know" must reach the others that don't know and tthen this whole thing will fall into place. The problem is we only have two years. Read in:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=12068&mesg_id=12068

Use my page to "educate" yourself and others. The more we know about this, the effective we will be at communicating the problem to others:

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm

I will add to this page daily. Please email me with any link suggestions; and check back regularly. <It now contains: 23 articles, four movies to watch online, one book to read online, etc. more to come.>

[Oak2004]

13. I am going to put together a leaflet

We need to get this message everywhere, not just in cyberspace. Look for the pdf soon. People can -- and should -- print it out and stick it on every available lamppost, bulletin board, and what-not. Those who don't like mine are enthusiastically invited to make their own.

Another thing that has arisen spontaneously in places and has a lot of potential is black armbands (sorry, not blue, because it's easier to make your own black armband than colored armband -- I'm going to write out some instructions).

Fly the flag upside down. Alternately, fly it half-staff. This can be promoted again through the net and on flyers.

If people in affected areas want to put together demonstrations/civil disobedience, I can offer them an organizing tool. E-mail me or message me. "Unfortunately" as a Vermonter, and a disabled homebound one at that, my elections were clean, and so I'm not in a position to organize regional protests.

We need to organize national demonstrations on the day the electors vote and on coronation day. Again, I've got an organizing tool to offer, and some suggestions.

It is extremely difficult to work together on this board, because of the sheer volume of posting and because some things should be discussed privately. We need to connect here, then work together elsewhere in cyberspace.

[tommcintyre]

14. When you are ready with your info - contact me a my site

Use the contact button or:

[e-mail]

If you put your pdf on the web, I will list a link for it. If not, you can upload it to me, and I will make it available.

[Kip Humphrey]

16. 51 Capital "You Stole My Vote" March on December 12th

Save Our Votes! Stop The Theft!

If you are interested in helping organize the
51 Capital "You Stole My Vote" March on December 12th, 2004


Email me at:
[e-mail]

We need all kinds of volunteers:

State Coordinators, web scripters and coders, state medical coordinators, city coordinators, march organizers, etc..


COMING SOON:
www.51CapitalMarch.org
www.YouStoleMyVote.org

[sarahlee]

17. These folks need help for a Dec. 12th Event

Just got this in email:

Save Our Votes! Stop The Theft!

If you are interested in helping organize the
51 Capital "You Stole My Vote" March on December 12th, 2004

Email me at:
[e-mail]

We need all kinds of volunteers:

State Coordinators, web scripters and coders, state medical
coordinators, city coordinators, march organizers, etc..

COMING SOON:
www.51CapitalMarch.com
www.YouStoleMyVote.com

Save Our Votes! Stop The Theft! - WE CAN SAVE OUR VOTES!

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I can't start new topics so someone please do if you think it worthwhile.

[DaveofCali]

18. Guys, We have to do as much as possible about this now....

because Remember the Help America Vote Act of 2002, which mandated that many of these places must modernize their voting systems by 2006, which means that in addition to the 30% of places that have put in Evoting across the country, another 30% of polling places around the country will modernize their systems by 2006, which the vast majority may be E-Voting!

This means that unless we do as much as possible about this, Democracy is dead forever because it won't matter if Democrats change their strategy or if Democrats are much more effective on their message, because Republicans will be in control of the deck, and thus Republicans will forever be able to Rig Elections like this one!!!