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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:55 AM
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Clark now does best vs. Bush, has risen 9 pts. vs. him in only ten days
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 10:56 AM by gore-is-my-president
We have hope... Let's hope this trend continues. Voters are just getting to know Wesley Clark and it's apparent - the more they get to know him the more they like him. Kerry has also risen dramatically.

Up until very recently, Dean had been getting almost 3 times the media coverage than ALL of the other candidates put together...
Coverage had been very postive of Dean up until about 3 weeks ago.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential%20Contenders_January%202004.htm

January 15, 2004--Ten days ago, the first Rasmussen Reports Election 2004 survey found that Howard Dean was more competitive with President Bush than any other Democrat. That is no longer the case.
In head-to-head match-ups with the President, retired General Wesley Clark trails by just ten points, 48% to 38%. That's an improvement from a nineteen point gap ten days ago.

Senator John Kerry trails the President by eleven points, 48% to 37%. Ten days ago, he trailed by 20.

Dean trails the President by twelve points, 50% to 38%. That's only a modest improvement from 52% to 37% in the first Rasmussen Reports survey.

When paired against any of the Democratic contenders, the President is favored by 48% to 50% of those surveyed. All of the Democratic contenders attract between 34% and 38% of the vote.

Jan 13-14 Jan 2-4
Bush-Clark 48-38 51-32
Bush-Kerry 48-37 51-31
Bush-Dean 50-38 52-37
Bush-Gephardt 50-36 51-31
Bush-Edwards 49-35 51-29
Bush-Lieberman 48-34 50-34

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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:02 AM
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1. The Cream is
still rising to the top!


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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:59 PM
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15. How Libertarian
But cream is bad for your health.

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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:06 AM
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2. Thanks, gore.
This is good to hear. Clark is my favorite.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:06 AM
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3. so in other words
all the candidates are statistically doing as well against Bush as the next. Good news for all of them.
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Lost and Confused Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:18 AM
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4. Potential Bombshell
Clark allegedly made the case to Congress for going to war with Iraq; said Daniel Pearle's analysis is right on target. The transcript is supposedly coming out today.

Is this another "I would have prevented 9/11"
"I will prevent anymore attacks if I'm President"
"I would have voted for the war" "I wouldn't have voted for the war" "I've always said I would not have voted for the war."?

Clark needs to pick a party (Rep or Dem) and stick to it. He needs to pick a story and stick to it.

Is this why Clinton picked Clark to run?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:33 AM
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8. Daniel Pearle ? Do you mean the Wall Street Journal reporter
who was murdered ? Lost, I don't know but confused, definately.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:36 AM
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9. Perhaps you shouldn't use Drudge as a source until there is independent
confirmation of his claims. Don't you think?

I couldn't help but notice that you didn't bother to state where your info came from. Considering the source, that was probably wise.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:40 AM
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10. How about this one...
Or because it doesn'r say what you want it to we have to discount it also?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3965938/
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:15 PM
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13. I think Boxter was answering #4.
He's on your side.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:26 AM
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5. Dean has been the frontrunner
and came out of nowhere - to the grave distress of the party establishment. There was no denying Dean's momentum, so they had to report his success, but then the corporate press started the "goring", with a complicit establishment party and Republicans seeding doubts, memes, and smears of racism or anger or unelectible charges...All ridiculous, all unfounded, but they have to turn it into a horserace---can't have a strong candidate actually be a threatening force to the arrogant punk.

So, do you think that any of your candidates will escape the treatment? Because they have more garbage in their past and less money, they will plumment like lead.

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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:43 AM
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11. Dean has been the "media darling" for several months - he's just now
being questioned by the media as he should be, of course. You cannot give a candidate a "free pass" ala Bush in 2000.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:48 AM
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12. Why many Dem consultants and leaders are concerned about Dean
The reason many in the Dem Party are afraid is that they sincerely did not believe that Dean could win because of his history of gaffes and mis-steps. They were also afraid that Dean is going to lose us seats in Congress (particularily in the South).

In additon, Dean has made the party appear as if we are "wild-eyed" angry far-left liberals to moderates and centrists. Now you and I both know that Dean is NOT a liberal - but he has positioned himself as that "I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." THIS is a statement that many experts expect will come back to bite him in the butt - should he become our nominee.

Some consultants had come to believe for a while that maybe they had underestimated Dean and that perhaps he could pull it off - but many have gone back to their original assessment of him (that he's too much of "undisciplined" person to win).
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:31 AM
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6. If you study polisci and public policy analysis, it's so obvious
that Clark has the best chance any way you look at it.

With any rudimentary look at public opinion on the issues and tends. On geography, demography, and ideology.

These national head-to-heads are way, way, down the ladder of you should base these projections on
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:33 AM
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7. polls now confirming
what Clark supporters knew all along...Wes is the best for dethronement of chimpster

Mr. Moore seems to agree...
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:46 PM
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14. Surprised? I'm not
Clark completely negates Bush's big issue - tough on terror. Nobody else does that, so it's not surprising Clark is the favourite.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:01 PM
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16. Kerry looking good too
Funny what just a couple of days of good media can do for him. He would literally slaughter Bush.
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