Will Condi Rice run for the Senate seat in California??

[Macadian]

How would you feel about her running against DF??

Has she done a good job as National Security Adviser? It has also been suggested that she will be Secretary of State if Bush wins another term.

A friend of mine thinks Condi is great.

Can somebody here tell me if she is the superb individual they claim she is?

[jpak]

1. It's going to be tough campaigning

from a prison cell...

[Macadian]

3. Seriously...

Why would she go to prison, and give specifics not emotions.

Secondly, what is the realistic chance this would happen? Again, I don't know that much about her. Is there corruption in her past?

[Sapphocrat]

8. There's corruption...

...in her present.

Look, she's beholden to the Rummy-Wolfy-Perle cabal, and as complicit as any of them. Read up on PNAC, then understand Condi is just another mouthpiece for the whole murderous bunch.

Specifics? She's lied as long and loud and often as Bush*, mostly about WMD. You want specifics, go read the transcripts of every Sunday-morning talk show she's guested on for the past three years, and then start comparing her statements, one against the other.

Either she lies like a dog, or she's incredibly stupid. And I don't think she's at all stupid.

Could she go to prison? Sure, as long as the whole Bushy Bush is put on trial. What are the chances? Beats me -- in '74, I couldn't imagine so many Nixon henchmen would actually draw prison time either.

And the crimes of Nixon, Haldemann, Erlichman, Dean, Colson, Liddy, etc., etc., etc., are schoolboy pranks compared to those of BushCo.

[saltpoint]

14. Great response.

Just excellent. thank you!

[goclark]

2. LOL

Condi is a neocon of the first order. She would of course fit right in with the new goppenator both are truly lacking in everything but
gall!

Condi needs to be on trial for war crimes.

[Clark Commandor]

17. Um

Now Cmon, be Nice. I wouldn't vote for her but I wouldn't send her to jail just because I disagree with her.

[Sapphocrat]

4. What has your friend been smoking?

If "a good job" means following the company lie line by repeating the same meaningless catch phrases ad nauseam like the bobblehaded robot she is, and looking positively constipated in an effort to lend credibility to her boss's b.s., then she's done a damned good job.

And after the way she let her lackey Stephen Hadley take the fall for "forgetting" that the CIA sent multiple warnings not to let Shrub use that bogus "yellowcake" claim in his '03 SOTU, I sure wouldn't want to be on her staff.

For another thing, she's an opportunistic traitor. Former Democrat, you know.

I could name many more reasons I can't stand The Bobblehead, but thinking about her makes my gorge rise.

Suffice to say, if she runs against DiFi, I will fight like hell for DiFi's re-election -- and I do NOT like DiFi, not one little, teeny, tiny bit.

If The Bobblehead were to beat DiFi, I will adopt a new accent and start telling people I'm from New England, because I'll be too ashamed to admit I'm a native Californian.

[Demeter]

5. She'd Have to Be Dumber Than a Bagful of Hammers...

Oh, I get it!

[Sandpiper]

6. DF is known as the 800 pound gorilla

Of California politics, as she is the most popular elected official in the state, and has an approval rating of over 60%. The Gropinator only threw his hat in the ring when he was certain that Feinstein wouldn't be running in the recall election. Dr. Dumbass would get creamed if she tried to square off against DF.

[David__77]

7. She would lose.

This is certain if she opposed Feinstein.

[leyton]

9. I read that her dream job is NFL commissioner.

Seriously. Newsweek, I think, ran a profile of her in the early days of the (mis)administration. Her ideal job is commissioner of the NFL.

Although that's not all that likely, does the NFL allow women commissioners? I mean, the players are all men.

[Macadian]

10. I guess I'm surprised by all the animosity here.

My friend, admittedly a conservative, sent me an article about Rice. The article indicated that she is an intelligent, attractive and experienced. Also an expert on Russia and concert pianist.

I really hadn't read much about her before, so I was surprised that someone of such a high caliber was serving under Bush.

Now I am equally surprised, and confused, by the anger you guys are directing toward her. Is it solely based on her serving in the Bush administration? Or is there something else in her background you object to?

[jpak]

11. There was something called 9/11 that happened on her watch

She is just a piss-poor National Security Advisor - she should have been fired on Sept. 12, 2001.

and all the lies she repeated about I-raqi WMD.

and the fact she refuses to testify under oath to the 9/11 commission.

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[David__77]

12. She's trying to defend the indefensible.

I think her talents are overshadowed by her associations, yes. She 100% defends the Bush administration actions in foreign affairs. That alone disqualifies her from being considered competent unless and until she recants most profusely.

[Sapphocrat]

13. Okay, you want stuff to read?

Here's just the tip of the iceberg -- and I hope this explains at least some of the "animosity" here:

Loyalty means lying.

Consider the poignant case of Condoleezza Rice, who entered this administration as a respected academic expert on Russian affairs and the former provost of Stanford University. Unlike some of the figures around the President, Dr. Rice had no serious blots on her reputation when she was appointed national security advisor. ...

But during the past two years of international crisis, Dr. Rice has been dispatched to prevaricate repeatedly in defense of her boss. She was caught spreading a false story about Sept. 11, claiming that Air Force One flew the President to Oklahoma after the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon because "intelligence" indicated that terrorists were aiming for the White House and the Presidential jet. Later she testified that the U.S. government had never anticipated an assault by airliner, when in fact there had been many warnings of exactly such tactics—most notably during the summer of 2001, when Western intelligence services set up anti-aircraft batteries around the Genoa summit to protect the President. ... Then last year, as the determination of the White House to wage war on Iraq became plain, she began to promote dubious stories about Saddam Hussein’s regime. As national security advisor, she had access to all of the sensitive intelligence about Iraq, so the press and Congress took her pronouncements seriously.

More than anyone other than the President himself, Dr. Rice stoked fears about a "mushroom cloud" rising over an American city unless the U.S. waged war on Iraq. To promote such dread, she warned that a shipment of aluminum tubes purchased by the Iraqis could only be intended for a uranium-enrichment device. Long after the International Atomic Energy Authority debunked that claim, the national security advisor continued to insist that it must be true. ...

To Show Loyalty, Rice Lies for Bush
by Joe Conason
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=7632

Rice had all the qualifications for membership in the new Bush administration — a close personal bond with the president, the ability to make him look good (well, less bad) and (needless to say) deep ties to the oil industry. Chevron even named a tanker after her. Rice was a former member of the board of directors of Chevron, as well as Charles Schwab, Transamerica, Hewlett Packard and The Rand Corporation. ...

Condoleezza Rice
rotten.com
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/condoleeza-rice/


If the second excerpt means nothing to you, you owe it to yourself to Google Rand Corporation + PNAC + Wohlstetter.

(Better yet, has anybody got the link to the latest list of PNAC resources?)

It's not just that Condi is part of the Bush cabinet -- it's that she is an integral part of the oil-rich Bush cabal that stretches back to the formative days of PNAC. (Again, see why you need to understand what PNAC is? PLEASE do some research on this four-letter word!)

As for her accomplishments, I couldn't care less if she speaks 17 languages and can play the bagpipes while tap-dancing on the head of a pin. A lot of very evil minds belong to a lot of very smart, very talented people.

Now, please, go read the articles I cited. Then Google for more. Then come back and tell me if you understand the "animosity" a little better.

No, I'm not being facetious -- I really want to know if it makes more sense to you.

[saltpoint]

15. In a previous DU post, I said of Dr. Rice --

--  Condoleezza Rice is a woman who has abandoned the Goddess. She was an accomplished pianist and then chose a Power Track career instead. Oh, she still tinkles the ivories with that small ensemble just to keep her hand in, but her heart is with the power levers of world governments.

She left the meditative and fluid quiet of classical music for the white-knuckled wranglings of the war-mongering power elite.
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And I might have added that she lied through her teeth every step of the way. I distrust Dr. Rice more than any other public servant since Richard Nixon.

[leyton]

16. How accomplished was she?

I mean, could she play hard stuff, or did she actually perform in concert? Was she of the caliber of the pianists that can record on CDs, for example?

[saltpoint]

19. Yes -- she is very accomplished.

She is known to love Brahms especially, and to quote my old piano teacher, "Brahms is a bitch."

I think she is way good enough to quit her job at NSC and perform as a concert musician. I would pay to go hear her.

But I'm voting for any Democrat we put on the ticket who will replace her as top dog at NSC.

[Clark Commandor]

18. Hehe