Kucinich "not a plausible nominee"

[ThorsteinVeblen]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/947647.asp?0cl=c1


"Meanwhile, Sen. Joe Biden and retired Gen. Wesley Clark—urged on by still-uncommitted fellow Arkansan and Rhodes scholar Bill Clinton—are now thought to be leaning toward late-entry candidacies. (Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Carol Moseley Braun and the Rev. Al Sharpton will introduce differing perspectives to the campaign but aren’t plausible nominees.)"

[Cha]

1. Yeah the bush cabal let 9/11 happen so we would all feel

the need for the military complex.
bush is a lyin', thievin', murderin' son of a bitch.

I respect Dennis a lot and I hope he does well.


joe biden gives me gag reflex and I don't know enough about Wesley Clark to even comment on him.

Is there a link?

[benddem]

3. Links for info on Clark

I worked for him at Ft. Irwin and he is a great guy.
http://www.draftclark.com/
There is also a great article on him in Esquire. You can get it on their website.:)

[ProfessorPlum]

2. Biden would be a complete disaster

Between him and Joe L. spouting off about how their Iraq vote was a "vote for war", and lumping all the Democrats who voted for it in with them (Kerry, Clinton, etc.), I would think the last thing Kerry supporters would want is Biden in the race adding confusion about that (especially now that Kerry has decided that he can talk about being against the war). Biden's my senator - what a sellout he can be.

[CMT]

4. Kucinich, like Dean, is a plausible nominee

If he gets the nomination only two men have a real chance to be elected president of the US--George W. Bush--the corporate candidate or Dennis Kucinich--the people's candidate. Let's let the people decide.

[JohnKleeb]

5. Thank you CMT even though IIRC you support Dean

People like you give Dean supporters a good name because they respect DK, and while I disagree with Dean a lot, I feel that Dean supporters arent jerks like some claim they are, and most Kerry supporters are good people too.

[JeniB]

6. We really don't need two more in the race.

The field is already too crowded. Most everyone knows a lot about their candidate and a little about one or two more, but no one has the time to be fully informed on nine candidate's stances on issues. Two more is just confusing. I know some people say the more the merrier. I just think it doesn't let everyone make truly informed choices. I know everthing about Gephardt's issues and I like him a lot. But other than being pro-labor and wanting single-payer health insurance, I can't tell you anything about Kucinich. I thought Kerry seemed too aloof from the get-go so I know very little about him.
I know, I'm rambling. My point is we don't need anyone else.

[JohnKleeb]

7. I think Kucinich and Geb have a lot in common economically

Both are proudly labor democrats, Kerry is a pretty good person for labor too, I dont mind Gephardt really, war vote exempted and some other stuff he would be higher on my list. Kucinich and Gephardt have a bit in common too, with their roots, Dennis also had a truck driver father, and they are midwestern state residents. Gephardt or Kucinich would make a fine secretary of labor.

[JeniB]

8. People always put Gep down because of the war vote.

I didn't want the war either, but I don't hold that against him because he explains it well. He says he won't apologize for voting for it. He said there was a lot of intelligence even during the Clinton administration that said Iraq could make WMD's. Of course, we now know that some of the intelligence he saw was false. Anyway, he said he voted to go to war WITH the UN in agreement. And Bush agreed to go to the UN, so it looked like we either wouldn't go to war or if we did it would be in conjuction with our allies. He said the security of the American people was uppermost in his mind when he voted. I think that if we had gone with our allies, a lot of people would have felt differently about the war. Instead we pissed them all off and went it alone. That wasn't part of Gep's plan and he had no control over it.:shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

10. yeah I know hes a good guy at heart though

I think most democrats wanted to go to the war with the UN really. I dont have any hatred for Geb, I really think he could be something to get the union vote back firmly in our favor, DK too. I tell you this Gephardt isnt my favorite but I think I could campaign for him unlike Lieberman.

[JeniB]

11. I hear ya!

I could campaign for almost anyone. I think I'd like Kucinch, I just don't see where he's going to get the votes. I would definately go for him before some others. I'm not trying to be a Dean basher, but I honestly don't know what is attracting all these people. His campaign manager must be awesome! Lieberman would be my last choice.

[JohnKleeb]

12. I dont know the attraction really neither

I think the fact that he shares his anger is one of the reason but in reality I think its because he was the first to be publically known as a presidential contender and be against the war. You would like Kucinich if you like economic populist and someone who knows what its like. Dean is ok to me, I dont hate the guy but I just dont see him as much something new. Meanwhile I think Gephardt, Kerry, and Kucinich would be something new or that we havent had in a while. Dean is a good man I dont doubt but hes not my kind of candiate.

[JeniB]

13. I talked with Dean about a year ago.

He was at a friends house doing some pre-campaign stuff here in NH. I liked him personally, but he kept taking credit for some programs in Vermont that were already there when I lived there in 1986-89. I said "Gee, that was there when I lived there" and he just shrugged and said well now it's called somthing else. He then moved on because I guess I knew too much. I just thought it was odd that he didn't try to tell me that he made it better or something. He just said he changed the name. Anyway, it didn't sit well with me.

[blm]

14. yes, like Bush...AmeriCorps gets phased out for

FreedomCorps.

I wish it was different here for Gephardt...I know he did what he thought was necessary on Iraq. At first I was mad that he didn't hold out with the others for the Biden-Lugar bill, but, I've since decided that he has been too good a defender for the working man and that he truly deserves any support he gets. He earned it the hard way.

[Ishkaboogl]

17. we do need more in the race

at least clark. i don't think biden offers too much more to the race. but once lieberman, gephardt, braun, and (IMHO) kerry get out, it will really get interesting. dean will be the northeastern liberal/rockafeller repub/conservative/libertarian/whatever, while edwards, graham, and clark will duke it out for the south. the real battle is an all out brawl for the west, where no one has a clear advantage.

kucinich and sharpton will probably not pull our for a while, considering they pretty much have nothing to lose if they stay in.

[GreenArrow]

9. "Money talks,

bullshit walks," that, and a certain amount of charisma, are all that really define "plausibility."

[blm]

15. Kucinich has more plausibility in his little finger

than some compromising centrist candidates have in their entire body.

[ThorsteinVeblen]

16. Not according to Newsweek.

[blm]

18. Yes...the corporate media is really keeping Dean out there

just as they have for over 4 months now.