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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:00 PM
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Why is Hillary trailing? The answer is class.
WP: For Hillary's Campaign, It's Been a Class Struggle
By Linda Hirshman
Sunday, March 2, 2008; B01

....why is she trailing as the contest heads to Ohio and Texas?

The answer is class. As of Feb. 19, the day of the Wisconsin primary, ABC pollster Gary Langer found that white women with a college degree had favored Clinton in the primaries by 13 percent up to that point. Among less educated women, meanwhile, she commanded a robust 38-point lead. But each passing week since Super Tuesday has seen a further erosion in support for the senator from New York among the educated classes....This isn't the class divide I would have predicted a year ago. Among women, the obvious thing would be for lower-income, non-college-educated white and black women to line up behind the candidate with the more generous social platform. Both Clinton and Obama have generous platforms, but Clinton's health-care plan is more ambitious, and she was the first to propose mandatory paid family leave (which mostly women take). But women, black and white, stubbornly refuse to behave according to a strict model of economic self-interest. Black women of all income levels have gone for Obama....

Ominously for Clinton, the feminist movement split, generating a large number of "scribbling women" all over the blogosphere describing the gender-trumping call of the Obama candidacy. Before Super Tuesday, the group New York Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama! published a letter endorsing the senator from Illinois. Most of the signatories were educated elites -- including Nation columnist Katha Pollitt, women's rights historians Alice Kessler-Harris and Linda Gordon and actress Susan Sarandon....So many feminists' turn to solidarity with their own class is a surprise. For decades, they've been loudly proclaiming their loyalty to working-class women and criticizing reporters for writing chiefly about elite women who resemble themselves....

Just look at Internet millionaire Joan Blades, co-founder of the political Web site MoveOn.org and the women's Internet group MomsRising.org, whose signature issue is paid family leave. Clinton was the first candidate to propose such leave, but MoveOn endorsed Obama. The working-class members of the Service Employees International Union are 56 percent female. But even after working-class women in California ignored the local SEIU recommendation to back Obama, the national executive board endorsed him, again splitting the leadership from the workers.

Female governors, lifelong feminists, union leaders, moms rising -- all rushing into the Obama camp. What's going on?

Maybe Obama is the best candidate, and these highly educated women, with their greater political savvy, have recognized his value. A less charitable explanation is that college-educated women don't need the social safety net as much as their less fortunate sisters do, so Clinton's early stand on family leave or her slightly more generous health-care plan aren't as important to them. Or maybe it has to do with what Pollitt expressed in a recent blog posting: "On foreign policy Obama seems more enlightened, as in less bellicose."...Or it could just be that women with more education (and more money) relate on a subconscious level to the young and handsome Barack and Michelle Obama, with their white-porticoed mansion in one of the cooler Chicago neighborhoods and her Jimmy Choo shoes.

Or it's something less analyzable. When faced with a "movement," resistance is costly....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902991_pf.html
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:09 PM
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1. or maybe the answer is...
that college-educated women have followed the Clinton/Bush dynasty issue and do not feel it is in their best interest to support dynastic politics on either side of the aisle. Maybe college-educated women do not equate femaleness with rightness, simply b/c of gender.

What a piece of propaganda Hirschman is doling out. Feel guilty if you think Obama is better for this nation than yet another Clinton. Oh, and tell me how nafta is better for poor women?

Oh, and how is bank account of Hillary doing? And what about Bill? Does this smear article want to claim they don't have a lot of money... they're just working class?

give me a freaking break.

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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:17 PM
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2. Or maybe some college-educated women
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 01:20 PM by Demobrat
don't see Hillary as a female candidate running on her own merits, but as half of a power couple who's running because her husband can't. Considering a good chunk of the the experience about which she loves to brag is actually his, and all.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:20 PM
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3. Isn't this also the author of "Get A Job?"
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 01:22 PM by RainDog
in which she claims that no woman should stay home with her children because of the economic consequences in the long term? Maybe the issue is that the system- policies- create(s) such inequity because they don't give a shit about the children who will be wiping their behinds in their old age. Why aren't laws in place that protect those who raise the next generation?

This woman really seems to hate the middle class female who doesn't try to become a CEO. Why do we all have to have the same goals? Why do we all have to vote for a female simply because she is a female? I thought her name was familiar. I read her book. I suppose I was supposed to go out and work 15 hours a day and deal with a child with a developmental disability. One size does not fit all... I thought that was the point of feminism.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:27 PM
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4. She says this elsewhere in the article --
"Before the election got hot, Ellen Bravo, longtime director of 9 to 5, a national association of working women, asserted that working mothers 'with more opportunities' must 'take a stand with those who have fewer.' I've been the target of some of the more pointed criticism myself, for writing a book about educated women quitting their jobs for motherhood. Nation writer Liza Featherstone 'guessed' that my life did not look 'very much like that of a Starbucks barista.'"
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:46 PM
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6. bite me
are you so ignorant that you cannot understand that Hillary is part of the "Clinton" dynasty?????? who was in the White House when Bill was prez... it wasn't just Monica. Spin, spin, spin. Ignore reality and spin it... and your candidate will still not win it. No one said one fucking thing about a "female dynasty." Bush/Clinton. If you try to deny this issue, you are nuts to think you can spin this issue away. See, because you are making it an issue of femaleness. Obama can be seen as an issue of blackness... so who wins? Do I have to vote for Obama if I'm black, too?

I am not voting against my self-interests and I do not see how you can make that claim w/o knowing anything about my life. thanks so much for your attempts to insult me. as you say... smart, classy, and impressive. You sure know how to win over voters.

I'm done with you.

ignore is a useful feature.
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