McCain says 100 years, HIllary says 50 YEARS IN IRAQ!!!!

[tekisui]

Clinton told a group of young veterans in Lancaster, Pa., on Tuesday that one lesson of the war is to not commit troops “unless you are prepared to go all the way and are prepared to be successful.”

Questioned about her plans to begin withdrawing troops within 60 days after taking office, Clinton said U.S. forces already have fulfilled the mission they were assigned.

She said the Iraqi government has failed to create a stable political system despite the U.S. effort. “Does that mean we stay for 10 years, 30 years, 50 years? And if at the end of it the Iraqis still haven’t gotten their act together, we’re going to be facing the same tough questions.”

link: http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=289124

[polpilot]

1. Pro-War, Pro-NAFTA Hillary Clinton-Tough on terror, Tough on American workers!!!

...working for universal healthcare since she was 12..

[tekisui]

3. And using talking points started by chimpy's "korean model"

And expanded by McDubya's permanent war. Hoe is she any different on Iraq?

SHE'S NOT!

[bullimiami]

2. my BIG problem is that there is no iraqi government to blame this on.

the US IS THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT.

it seems like all of them keep blaming the iraq situation on the iraqis.
they have very little to do with it. we invaded the country, we destroyed the country, we set up the puppet government and we control the country.

[tekisui]

4. And she seems fine to stay for 50 YEARS!!!!

[Oleladylib]

5. and Obama is saying?

[tekisui]

6. Obama: I will set a new goal on Day One: I will end this war.

In order to end this war responsibly, I will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. We can responsibly remove 1 to 2 combat brigades each month. If we start with the number of brigades we have in Iraq today, we can remove all of them 16 months. After this redeployment, we will leave enough troops in Iraq to guard our embassy and diplomats, and a counter-terrorism force to strike al Qaeda if it forms a base that the Iraqis cannot destroy. What I propose is not – and never has been – a precipitous drawdown. It is instead a detailed and prudent plan that will end a war nearly seven years after it started.

My plan to end this war will finally put pressure on Iraq's leaders to take responsibility for their future. Because we've learned that when we tell Iraq's leaders that we'll stay as long as it takes, they take as long as they want. We need to send a different message. We will help Iraq reach a meaningful accord on national reconciliation. We will engage with every country in the region – and the UN – to support the stability and territorial integrity of Iraq. And we will launch a major humanitarian initiative to support Iraq's refugees and people. But Iraqis must take responsibility for their country. It is precisely this kind of approach – an approach that puts the onus on the Iraqis, and that relies on more than just military power – that is needed to stabilize Iraq.

Let me be clear: ending this war is not going to be easy. There will be dangers involved. We will have to make tactical adjustments, listening to our commanders on the ground, to ensure that our interests in a stable Iraq are met, and to make sure that our troops are secure. Senator Clinton has tried to use my position to score political points, suggesting that I am somehow less committed to ending the war. She makes this argument despite the fact that she has taken the same position in the past. So ask yourself: who do you trust to end a war – someone who opposed the war from the beginning, or someone who started opposing it when they started preparing a run for President?

Now we know what we'll hear from those like John McCain who support open-ended war. They will argue that leaving Iraq is surrender. That we are emboldening the enemy. These are the mistaken and misleading arguments we hear from those who have failed to demonstrate how the war in Iraq has made us safer. Just yesterday, we heard Senator McCain confuse Sunni and Shiite, Iran and al Qaeda. Maybe that is why he voted to go to war with a country that had no al Qaeda ties. Maybe that is why he completely fails to understand that the war in Iraq has done more to embolden America's enemies than any strategic choice that we have made in decades.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fiveyearslaterspeech


I like 7 years to an end. Better than Hillary's 50 or McCain's 100.

[Oleladylib]

7. "If we can" are big suppositions...

If I hear "I will" from any of these candidates they have my vote.

[tekisui]

8. The one who doesn't think 50-100 gets my vote.

If you start with accepting that, how is anything going to happen?

[bullimiami]

11. is obama also blaming it on "the iraqi government" not living up to their responsibilities?

please tell me he doesnt.

[Terry_M]

9. Instead of speaking in years

WE need to speak in numbers that the average voter will understand... Instead of Hillary says 50 years it should be Hillary says she doesn't care if she has to take 100,000$ from every household in America and if it takes 25,000 more American deaths to keep the war going.

[tekisui]

10. Great point.

[Cha]

12. Two faced hilary bloviates again..

hilary was promising the troops would come home and now she's up to her old "military complex rules".

No wonder the m$$$m is screaming Pastor White down the throats of Americans..they want hilary to look tough all the way to bank.