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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:24 PM
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Gephardt misses Overtime vote?!
Is this true? Just heard on Malloy that the vote was won by three votes and seven dems, including Gephardt missed the vote!!! This guy's the labor candidate? Please tell me this is a joke or a rumor like the Kathleen Harris story.....

This is just a bone head move if true...
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:18 PM
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1. You heard right. Gephardt no-showed for the vote.
I believe he was there earlier. There's a thread about it around here somewhere. Asshole.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:20 PM
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3. I love your flag!,,,,Hedda!




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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:18 PM
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2. I heard that ,,,,and find it incredible!!
Please help the Workers in this Country!
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:30 PM
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4. It's true
Gephardt did miss the vote and it was very close. If the vote had no chance then it would be different but his vote could have mattered. He should resign from the House of Representatives if he doesn't plan on voting most of the time.
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:34 PM
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5. Pelosi should step down
for allowing 7 Dems to cross over, and vote with Repukes. Gebhardt has no chance of winning once word spreads to labor groups. He should step aside as a Pres Candidate immediately IMHO.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:39 PM
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8. Pelosi couldn't even get 4 Dems to vote for her as leader
You can't expect her to control everyone. What's a list of the traitors though?
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 01:08 PM
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16. That's ridiculous
What is she supposed to do? She is the MINORITY leader. She has no way to threaten and force people to vote with her. Do you honestly think that any leader could have kept those votes? If everyone stepped down for losing only 7 votes, then there would be a new leader every week.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:01 PM
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17. wrong
Only 3 Democrats voted against the amendment: Cal Dooley (CA), Ralph Hall (TX), and Charlie Stenholm (TX).

http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=351
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 04:07 PM
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19. why did Dooley?
I can see the other two since they're the two biggest DINOs out there.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 04:29 PM
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21. I don't know...
he did not speak on the matter.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:09 PM
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22. Isn't he pretty moderate?
I think he chairs the New Democratic Coalition which is kind of moderate. Maybe he has some special interest connections that make him oppose the amendment.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 02:04 PM
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18. Only three voted against it, seven did not vote at all
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:35 PM
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6. That does it for me
Come primary time, he will NOT get my vote. Period, end of story. As far as I'm concerned he's done. :grr:
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:37 PM
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7. Kucinich was there and voted for the workers
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 11:01 PM by AnAmerican
n/t
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:25 AM
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14. Thank God...
or I was gonna start a slow wailing sound....Say what you want about the Congressman...he certain walks the walk.....

Kucinich supporters....please let his campaign know that speaches delivered as fiery oratory (i.e. everyone on TV that I seen) undercuts the passion behind the words...if he's fiery about every word...then it comes as a phoney....

I've heard enough of his speeches on Mike Malloy's show to know that he can be a very powerful speaker without the shouting....
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 08:41 AM
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15. Kucinich is the worker's candidate
he's a loyal union/worker supporter and champion.

Gephardt talks the talk but when he walks he leans to the right.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 04:09 PM
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20. Kucinich is the best for the workers hopefully the AFL-CIO will endorse hi
if he can get something like that. Push it to the limit sorry I was just thinking of Scarfare. Push it to the limit hehe.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:40 PM
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9. I just hope the Senate can kill this
Kerry, Lieberman and Edwards better be there. If the Dems remain united except Zell (which they have done in the past) it would just take a few crossovers to kill it. Chaffee and the Maine girls, and Specter being a tossup since he comes from a big labor state but also is lurching to the right due to his primary challenge.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:59 PM
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10. Vote on what?
I missed it.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:24 AM
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11. Par for the course. Gephardt has not been there for MOST of the votes
since he decided to run for President. Kucinich has the best record. Not ONE missed vote. A great statement, if you ask me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:26 AM
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12. But the Medicare vote lost.... until
They held open the vote for an hour and intimidated a couple of Republicans to switch their votes. So, just because the labor bill looks like it only lost by a few votes, they undoubtedly would have done the same thing.

But Gephardt still should have been there, if he's the labor candidate and all.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:14 AM
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13. He has actually missed 89% percent of votes this year
ABSTRACT - Six members of Congress seeking Democratic presidential nomination are finding that juggling legislative duties with demanding national campaign can wreak havoc with schedules, hurt their voting records and disrupt sleep; all except Rep Dennis J Kucinich have missed votes; Republican National Committee Web site keeps tabs of candidate's attendance records; holds Rep Richard A Gephardt has missed 89 percent of House votes this year; Republicans say that in Senate John Kerry has missed 41 percent of votes, Joseph L Lieberman 26 percent, John Edwards 20 percent and Bob Graham 14 percent; senators particularly have had to discard carefully arranged campaign schedules on short notice to hurry back to Washington for key votes in closely divided Senate; photos (M) Senators John Kerry and Bob Graham took the Senate floor on Friday to sharply criticize the major Medicare bill that is on the table, describing it as insufficient and riddled with gaps in insurance coverage.

more: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0711FA385F0C768EDDAF0894DB404482
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