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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:29 PM
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will moveon.org have another online primary?
I didn't vote in the first one and want to vote Kucinich in the next.

Thanks!
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:32 AM
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1. We already know Dean's going to win
Thanks to his legions of internet hoarders.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:57 AM
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2. he didn't win last time
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 01:58 AM by ErasureAcer
in the sense of getting a majority
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:59 AM
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3. how much he get last time
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:39 AM
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4. Results from last time
Kucinich placed a pretty solid 2nd.

BRAUN 7021 2.21%
DEAN 139360 43.87%
EDWARDS 10146 3.19%
GRAHAM 7113 2.24%
KERRY 49973 15.73%
KUCINICH 76000 23.93%
GEPHARDT 7755 2.44%
LIEBERMAN 6095 1.92%
SHARPTON 1677 0.53%
OTHER 6121 1.93%
UNDECIDED 6378 2.01%

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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:45 AM
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6. How dare they
Yeah, how dare those Dean people actually vote? Bastards.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:43 AM
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5. Yeah
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 06:44 AM by AWD
I believe they will......it was a pretty early primary, so I think they'll do it again.
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:03 AM
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7. My guess would be no
They garnered alot of press with the first one. The fact that Dean, Kucinich and Kerry were the top vote getters garnered publicity for those candidates.

The question is, how would holding another vote help Move-On? I don't know that it would. The publicity and media coverage they recieved and the increase in membership they probably experienced is what they were looking for.

We all know that the internet does not represent the Democratic Party as a whole. The fact that the three candidates who placed highest are generally thought to be liberal/progressive proves that point.

I doubt that another vote would help Move-On in the same way the first one did. It gave them a good indication of their appeal, nothing more. If they did hold another and a candidate did recieve the majority vote, that in itself poses a problem. They will have alienated those who voted for a different candidate. If the "winner" of the Move-On vote did not receive the nomination in the actual primaries they would have shot themselves in the foot. Their goal is increasing membership, period.

Better for them to let the issue lie. The first vote was effective in getting their message out. A second one would not accomplish anything substantive.

Of course, they may yet prove my reasoning wrong. Time will tell.
An interesting note is that, to my knowledge, they have not mentioned another vote in the intervening tuime since the original. Seems they are done with the entire process.
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:18 AM
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8. not to quibble but i am quite sure that
if another move one primary were to be held it would be the third one for them, not the second. The first one took place either at the end of april or the beginning of may and the 2nd one being the end of june. I would not be surprised to see another one as there email to me indicates that they want to be able to throw their very significant support behind the winner of their primary. there were no clear winners in either primary, the criteria being that one candidate receive at least 50% of the vote.
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:23 AM
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9. As far as I know
They only held the one vote. I may be wrong on that. But I see no indication (email or otherwise) that they plan on holding another.

I would be surprised if they tried to milk that cow again.
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:33 AM
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10. ok, i found the email from wes boyd
and he calls the first one a 'straw poll'...so you are right..the first vote was a straw poll, then the primary...dean coming out ahead in both with kucinich coming in 2nd in both the straw poll and the primary.
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