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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:13 AM
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West Wing Tonight Reminded Me Of Kerry's Words On Matthew Shepard
Can anyone here ever forget the first time you heard about Matthew Shepard or Brandon Teena? I've been watching West Wing since it started on Bravo (please don't reveal any plot twists!!!). Lately, they have a storyline that clearly refers to Matthew Shepard - truly one of the sadder chapters in American history. I was messing around the Kerry website afterwards, when I stumbled on this statement:

October 14, 1998

We come here this evening -- straight and gay -- Americans all -- to express our sense of shock and outrage for what happened on a dark road in Wyoming -- to express our passionate conviction and knowledge that there is no room in our country for the kind of vicious, terrible, pathetic, ignorant hate that took the life of Matthew Shepard.

We are a better country than that -- and I know that Wyoming is filled with good people who share our shock tonight.

But the question, here in this city of monuments, is what will we do about it as a country? Is there a lesson that can become a monument to Matthew Shepard and so many others who suffer because of other people's limitations?

The reason we are here is to guarantee that lesson. To make certain that there will be no period of indifference, as there was initially when the country ignored the burning of black churches or overlooked the spray-painted swastikas in synagogues; or suggested that the undiluted hatred which killed this young man is someone else's problem, some other community's responsibility.

We must all accept national responsibility for the killing in Wyoming, and commit -- each of us in our words, in our hearts, and in our actions -- to insure that the lesson of Matthew Shepard is not forgotten.

To my friends in the Congress, I say let us pass the Hate Crimes legislation. And, let the so-called leaders in this country stop their immature and nonsensical rhetoric which encourages, or justifies, these barbaric acts. Look to the 58 high schools in my own beautiful state of Massachusetts where 22 percent of gay students say they skip school because they feel unsafe there and fully 31 percent of gay students had been threatened or actually physically attacked for being gay.

Matthew Shepard is not the exception to the rule -- his tragic death is rather the extreme example of what happens on a daily basis in our schools, on our streets and in our communities. And that's why we have we have an obligation to pass laws that make clear our determination to root out this hatred. We hear a lot from Congress today how we are a country of laws, not men. Let them make good on those words and pass hate crime legislation.

To all Americans, I encourage you tonight to stare down those who want you to live in fear and declare boldly that you will not live in a country where private prejudice undermines public law.

Each of us has the power to make this happen, and in a small way change misperception and reverse prejudice. Our belief in the strength of human justice can overcome the hatred in our society -- by confronting it.

So we must confront it as Martin Luther King did when he preached in Birmingham and Memphis and all over this country, when he thundered his protest and assuaged those who feared his dreams.He taught us how to look hatred in the face and overcome it.

We should face it as Nelson Mandela did the day he left prison in South Africa, knowing that if his heart was filled only with hatred, he could never be free. Nelson Mandela destroyed systemic hatred, faced the fear -- and today sets an example to the world about moving away from ignorance.

We need to challenge it as Harvey Milk did in San Francisco, when he brushed aside hatred, suspicion, fear and death threats to serve his city. Even as he foretold his own assassination, Harvey prayed that "if a bullet should enter my brain, let that bullet destroy every closet door." He knew that true citizenship belongs only to an enlightened people, unwavered by passion or prejudice -- and it exists in a country which recognizes no one particular aspect of humanity before another.

Today, the challenge is to face our fears and root out hatred wherever we find it -- whether on Laramie Road in Wyoming, or on the back roads of Jasper, Texas, or in the Shenandoah National Park.

The Declaration of Independence framed it all for us and everything we try to be is based on the promise of certain inalienable rights; life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Two young high school dropouts threaten each and every one of us when they stole Matthews rights and life itself.

That kind of hate is the real enemy of our civilization -- and we come here to call on all people of good conscience to pass the laws that help us protect every citizen and we ask every American to make the personal commitment to live our lives each day in a way that brings us together.

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/speeches/spc_1998_1014.html
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:16 AM
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1. That was good words by Kerry
Nice reference to Mandela too
:) He aint my second pick for nothing.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:20 AM
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2. Harvey Milk Was a Great Man
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:25 AM
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4. Seems interesting
I dont know much but he seems like a neat guy.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:29 AM
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7. Oh, man, could I tell you!
I lived in San Francisco when he and Mayor Moscone were assassinated. Harvey was an absolute inspiration and a real example of someone who won against all odds. BTW, Dr. F, the movie is positively heartbreaking. I can't tell you how many times I've watched it!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:31 AM
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8. Ive seen a documentary on Bobby K that breaks my heart
The sad thing is knowing the end, Bobby dies.
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CarlBallard Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:22 AM
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3. Wow
He tied it together so well. A nation of laws, Mandela, and King, the Declaration of independance, and hate crimes legislation. And so elegantly.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:29 AM
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5. There isn't a gay person alive
who doesn't in his worst fears wonder if he could be a Matthew Shepard. I'll never forget hearing about his murder. I know full well it could have been me. It almost was when I was in college. I remember riding the local bus a couple of days later and overhearing a couple of 'men' discussing how he deserved what he got. That is the closest I have come in years to getting in a public fight.

Those were beautiful words. Kerry is a good man. I will admit to being somewhat bitter over there being no hate crime law close to five years later. There were three high profile hate crimes against gays that year. Matt's murder, a guy in Alabama who was beaten, shot, and set on fire, and a couple in Texas who got shot by a teen. Our schools still can be Hell on earth for gays and lesbians.

I still prefer Dean on this issue for reasons I outlined in a different thread but that speech was good, very good. And the West Wing is great you are in for a treat. I didn't start really watching it until the end of the first year so I am also seeing these early episodes for the first time. CJ's reaction to this crime is so sweet and touching. I would really like it if this administration had a real CJ in it.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:43 AM
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10. I Love CJ's Unguarded Emotional Reactions To The Issues
You understand that her job is to BS the press, which is ironic because she feels things so passionately. I used to never watch anything on TV, but between West Wing and Queer Eye I've suddenly become a TV junkie.

You know I love West Wing because it gets priority over the Daily Show - and I LOVE the Daily Show.

But it is interesting how you can watch West Wing and know what real events in the Clinton White House they were referring to, and sometimes you get strange echoes in headlines from contemporary events.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:47 AM
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11. You do know it is on at 7pm?
the same episode shown at 11pm is shown at 7pm. On nights I don't go to a meeting I usally catch it then.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:01 AM
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13. I Always Try To Catch It At 7
But I had friends over for dinner tonight. But at 11, I told the stragglers, "I love you guys, but I'm afraid West Wing is on." My wife took over from there. She's not big on West Wing, or politics for that matter. Luckily, I'm a diverse kind of fella, or we wouldn't have much to talk about.;-)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:53 PM
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20. It occured to me
while driving today just what is so interesting about CJ. It is her intoxicating mixture of sophistication and naivete. She dresses, talks, and looks like a sophisticated woman from 1950's movies but she is so naive that she can't fathom why a father of a gay who was killed might still be ashamed of his son. It is so rare for both qualities to be in one person.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:07 AM
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21. She Is One Of The More Complex Characters
I still think that Josh is somehow the central character, but CJ is one of the most fascinating - and you articulate precisely why. She is sophisticated and passionate, but sometimes her passions blind her. Which makes her such an unusual/great choice for press secretary.

Sometimes I find myself amazed at how liberal the show is, and wonder how the rest of the country feels about it when they talk about sexual civil rights, gun control, and the death penalty as if they were common sense. To me they are common sense, but I wonder how middle Americans feel about it.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:29 AM
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6. Incredible
Kerry is a master...I am so excited about tomorrow. He DrFunk...email me. I want you to write for my website.
-Eric
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:32 AM
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9. That speech is so moving; it's nearly perfect!
He must have terrific speechwriters...

:toast: :yourock:
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:55 AM
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12. or be terrifically eloquent
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:18 AM
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27. heheh...actually it is Kerry who influences
great writers. Aaron Sorkin, who created and wrote West Wing, is a longtime admirer of Kerry and endorsed him many months ago.

I've been wondering if Sorkin is going to make himself available to write speeches during the campaign.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:03 AM
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14. I can't believe I forgot to mention
that you really should watch the Laramie Project if you haven't already. It is a movie, based on the play, which showed on HBO. A gay playwrite went to Laramie with his troupe and interviewed people throught Laramie. They discussed their reactions to, knowledge about, relationships with, and details of Matthew, the crime, and the perpetrators. Have a box of tissues ready as it is a tear jerker. It still plays rarely on HBO and must be on video by now. If DU1 were available I would find the thread I posted when I first watched it. But in any case it is a must see movie.
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:24 PM
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26. I had the great opportunity to act in a local production
Of "The Laramie Project". Every night when the actor gave the speech that Dennis Shepard gave in the courtroom after Aaron McKinney's sentencing I always had to fight back tears.

Judy Shepard came the night before to the campus not to see the play, and gave a heart wrenching talk about what it has been like for her since the loss of Matthew Shepard, and to also advocate for gay right issues. Such a sweet, authentic woman I just wanted to hug her for what she is doing. There was also some talk that Fred Phelps was trying to come protest but he already had a full plate of hate.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:47 PM
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28. Wow....then you must
have some real insight into this issue. It's all so horrific to me at every level. How did you keep your composure?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:12 AM
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15. Matthew Shepard died in the same hospital I was born in
The area where he was murdered is very anti-gay and what happened didn't surprise me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:37 AM
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16. thats interesting
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:43 PM
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17. You should watch the Laramie Project
if you haven't already. It may alter your perceptions slightly.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:47 PM
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18. Did Anyone Ever See "Dear Jesse?"
There is a brief moment in the film when they actually interview Matthew Shepard. It is a really chilling moment when the implication of the things Jesse Helms says and does hits home.

http://www.allmovie.com/cg/x.dll
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:50 PM
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19. I did
and what a bizarre coincidence. You have to wonder what Matt could have done had he lived. What an all around waste.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:08 AM
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22. Damn Straight
Some moments of injustice can make you ache just thinking about them.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 12:31 AM
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23. I watched it many times
Why would it alter my perceptions? I've been to Laramie, Ft. Collins, the Laramie County area many times. I know what the people are like, they are not all murderers but they are very anti-gay.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 09:31 AM
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24. They came across to me
as being a fairly normal community. While there were certainly a fair number of haters there were also a fair number of true gay friendly folk, and a huge number of inbetween.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 03:59 PM
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25. Aaron Sorkin supports Kerry
and has followed his career for a long time. I wouldn't doubt that Kerry's speeches are a goldmine of inspiration for Sorkin.

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