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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:36 PM
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Denish drops Dean to throw her weight behind Kerry
September 08, 2003
The Albuquerque Tribune
by Shea Andersen

Albuquerque -

Still grieving over the loss of her father, Lt. Gov. Diane Denish nonetheless faced the cameras this morning to announce her endorsement of Democratic presidential primary candidate John Kerry.

Denish’s father, former Hobbs lawmaker Jack Daniels, died Thursday.

“The best way to honor him today was to stand up and say I support John Kerry,” Denish said.

Denish is now the highest-elected state official to have made an endorsement. Gov. Bill Richardson is barred from making endorsements because, as chairman of the 2004 Democratic Convention, he is not allowed to take sides.

It’s also the first time Denish has come down for just one of the nine Democratic candidates. She previously backed both Kerry and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean.

“As far as the breadth and depth of experience necessary, I thought that Senator Kerry embodied that,” Denish said.

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/clips/news_2003_0908.html

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:40 PM
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1. Well....
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 02:43 PM by HawkeyeX
It'll take time but...

Everyone will be solidly behind Howard Dean. I will only vote for Kerry ONLY in the general elections. Remember, ABB.

Kerry embodies everything wrong with the US Senate and why would he be trustworthy enough to be President? Like I said, Washington insiders don't win Presidential elections, and only very rare exceptions do they win one. Why? All the public has to do is look at their voting records and see where they really stand for. Kerry gave Bush a blank check for the Iraq quagmire, which I have opposed.

He also voted for the Patriot Act, also voted for the Homeland Gestapo Department to be created, and much more.

Howard Dean is an outsider, much like our beloved President Clinton was, and he has showed the necessary experience and knowledge to govern the state of Vermont for over 11 years, and Kerry was merely a senator, never a governor, or even meeting with his constitutents. All he has is his wife's name, and money to throw around. Too bad Kerry is losing steam again, after he just declared.

Hawkeye-X
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:45 PM
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3. Learn your history...
"Washington insiders don't win elections, and only very rare exceptions do they win one."

What about JFK (two term senator) Johnson (former VP and congressional leader) Nixon (Eisenhower VP) Bush Sr. (VP and former head of CIA)
Is that really so rare? 4 of the last 8 (
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:50 PM
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8. You need to do homework
4 of the last 8??

2000 - Bush (Governor)
1996 - Clinton (Governor)
1992 - Clinton (Governor)
1988 - Bush (VP/Insider)
1984 - Reagan (Governor)
1980 - Reagan (Governor)
1976 - Carter (Governor)

6 of the last 7 elections won by non-insiders. How you come up with 4 of the last 8 is further spinning of the truth.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:17 PM
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13. It's time for another Senator from Massachusetts to be President...
Being a governor doesn't make you qualified--just like at the current occupant of the White House.

John F. Kennedy, a senator from Massachusetts, is my favorite Democratic President, by far. Clinton, too much a centrist for me.

John Kerry, United States Senator, has the what it takes to take on Busco, win the Presidency, and turn our country around.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:21 PM
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14. I'm talking about last 8 presidents...geez
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:21 PM
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15. Further more, I don't consider a sitting president an outsider
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:33 PM
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18. By my post you could see I was referring to Presidents
not elections.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:59 PM
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21. And look at all the problems those Governors caused
Due to lack of prior legislative experience, virtually every crisis that has occured in the last quarter century can be referred back to it.

And such statemnts about governors winning are cyclical in politics. Since virtually every political problem in the last qurter of a century has related to an politician with no legialtive experience being elected, with a sealed record. It is just about time for the cycle to switch.

If you look at Carter. massive fiscal problems and Iran Histage failures. Reagan, Iran Contra, BCCI and got know what else thats still hidden. Poppy Bush not a governor, inherits Reagans nutty economics and is the ONLY Republican who raised traxes to deal with the deficits, Goes through the FULL diplomatic route to deal with Iraq, taking two years before acting Also wasn't a governor.

Clinton, was already being attacked for his personal life BEFORE he was even nominated...Uses excessive military force without the approval of Congress 27 time during his tenure as president. IN Kosovo thousands of innocent civilians are killed in the 31,000 bombing raids ordered by General Wesley Clark during a single seventy day period.

And know the rich boy Bush...

None of them have really been able to avoid problems that presidents with prior legislative experience have found to have been easy to resolve.

Governors seem to just no be able to do things right, or tend to screw up more. Lack of legislative experience and insistance on their own way, rather than finding concensus at the legislative as well as international levels has been the main problems caused by Governor/Presidents. Without legislative experience first, and executive second, the seem to never be able to learn to play well with other people.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:51 PM
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9. Not to mention...
President Gore.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:48 PM
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6. Deanies never bash
They never enter a pro-Kerry thread and berate him. They never just repeat the same lines ad nauseum. Only Kerry people do that.

This is not specifically directed at you, Hawkeye, it is a general comment to all of those who say this doesn't happen. To the contrary, it happens almost every time something positive is posted on another candidate, particularly Kerry.

So Deanies, qui'cher bitchin.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 05:10 PM
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22. Exactly
It seems like the Dean people always berate everyone else
why is that
I am for Kerry, but I will never berate any candidate
because I like them all.........except for joe whinerman.
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 08:02 PM
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25. I am a deanie
and you will not find me searching for threads to dis Kerry in. The only person i will berate is joe lieberman. I actually like Kerry quite a lot. I just like Dean more.


Peace:kick: :dem: :bounce:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:45 PM
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2. Thanks for the post but this was shared daily
since the debates on Thursday. Do you have any new data?
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:46 PM
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5. There's a link to a news story that came out today
and the thread title is the headline
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:46 PM
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4. ummm, how many
times is it gonna be posted that the lt. gov. of nm endorsed kerry... i swear, i've read this like 8 times on here...

let us know when there's a new one...

thanks
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:44 PM
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20. And yet the Nico Pitney article on Dean was posted 5 times
and no one complained much. Go figure.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 05:11 PM
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23. and spammed to Kucinich supporters
btw Nico no offense pal but I aint a changing my candiate.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 05:11 PM
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24. and spammed to Kucinich supporters
btw Nico no offense pal but I aint a changing my candiate.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:50 PM
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7. 3 bashes
How many more?

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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:52 PM
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10. Define bashing...
...because if we stretch the meaning of bashing to include refuting info or declaring it as dupes, then maybe.....
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:02 PM
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11. 3 posts
the first one filled with rhetoric, nothing of substance in any of them, only purpose is to be negative, bashing in my mind.

The article is new. The poster may not have seen the other articles. There's not a refutation anywhere in here, only misinterpretation because the person is ready to bash instead of click on the link and read. Bashing, pure and simple. It happens every single time anybody posts on any other candidate, but especially Kerry.

The War Vote, Patriot Act, Homeland Security. We know already. The only purpose of posts like that is negativity, otherwise known as bashing. And if you're guilty, you're guilty.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:36 PM
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19. Is pointing out violations of the rules bashing?
While I will admit that this is the first, and so far only, time I have seen this; posting dupe threads is against the rules. Unless your contention is that the person who posted about this being a dupe if factually wrong, this isn't bashing.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:16 PM
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12. I've read various variations of the NM Lt. Gov.'s endorsement already
This is old and rehashed news. Good news for Sen. Kerry, but it's still old and rehashed.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:23 PM
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16. This is an article that came out today and talks about Denish's father
and the circumstances surrounding her endorsement. If you don't like Kerry don't read it. I posted it for the Kerry supporters not for Dean supporters to trash it.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:27 PM
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17. Thanks for the post - first time I heard about it
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