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Free_Thinker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:02 PM
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Truth Is Scarce (HOWARD DEAN mention)
HOWARD DEAN is impressing Americans all across the spectrum.
I haven't been excited about any of our candidates of late as I have been by Dean. This writer was for years a syndicated columnist for Orlando Sentinel and is now retired. Dean even impresses him.
This is something. Oh warning to KERRY fans, this could make you weep.

http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20030912/index.php

"At the moment, I'd bet on Dean, as he seems to be the only candidate who can inspire people. He's been unafraid to jump on President Bush, but he has also presented a very positive message, according to people who have attended some of his rallies. That's an important trait for a candidate. I hope he gets the nomination — among other reasons, just to spite the Establishment Press, which seems to dislike him."

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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:06 PM
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1. Interesting article
but unfortunately this guy's opinion is as valuable to me as my Uncle's. It seems to be sound, but in the end, it is just an opinion. I happen to agree with it, but that doesn't make it anymore valid than the person who doesn't find Kucinich untelegenic or Kerry handsome and endearing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:24 PM
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5. Yes! It's just an "opinion" but he crystalizes the feelings I have
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 03:29 PM by zidzi
..very eloquently!

There was an article in the Nation yesterday that isn't online ..by Jonathon Schell and he mentions most of the governments, tens of millions of demonstrators, UN Security Council, Dennis Kucinich, Howard Dean, and "the Nation" were the ones who were most vocally before the fact saying "we shouldn't go to war in Iraq"!

"They variously pointed out that Iraqi regime gave no support to Al qaeda and predicted the US would not be able to establish democracy in Iraq by force."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:11 PM
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2. ALL resolutions authorizing force are coercive tools.
They are USED to threaten force to get compliance. EVERY ONE of them.

Kerry said Powell told their committee that the war was not a done deal, and that they would use the authorization of force to threaten Saddam. That's how it works.

Powell will be held accountable along with Bush. Let investigations play out. Support Henry Waxman's push for an investigation into the White House's lead up to war. Waxman voted for the resolution, too.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:19 PM
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3. Although I agree with Luminous X completely.....
I think this Charlie Reese guy is a winger (latent memory from 5/6 months ago. Someone posted a thread about "If this guy is against Chimp, then we're making progress") So you shouldn't be too concerned with his opinion. As neither LumX, or I, are. From the "For What It's Worth" Department.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:22 PM
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4. MOI?
Concerned about an opinion? (she scoffed)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:29 PM
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6. Certainly not one of mine!
(he/she/it mused)
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Free_Thinker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:35 PM
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7. This is important
If what you say is accurate then Bush is in real trouble and Dean is the answer, as Dean can reach out to the millions of voters who went to Bush, e.g. West Virginia, soley due to the firearm issue. I think when Reese says the following about Bush it signals Big Opportunity for us.
From above linked article:

The only certainty at this time, as far as I'm concerned, is that I will not vote for George W. Bush. He's proven to be reckless, dangerously uninformed, terrible at choosing advisers, far too easily influenced by his bad advisers and, without a script, virtually unable to articulate. He has gotten us into deep trouble not only in the Middle East but here at home, and the scary part is, I don't think he has a clue that he has done so.

Rather than devise policies to solve the problems of America's men and women, he's spent his term paying back his big corporate contributors. I will genuinely fear for the future of the country if he is re-elected.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:39 PM
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8. Make no mistake.
Chimp is toast. I've never doubted it. I said it last year and I'll say it next year. Add a buck and you can get a cup of coffee, but I firmly believe it.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:14 PM
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9. he's not a winger
he's more of a Libertarian - and he's been bashing Bush from the word go. He's been especially eloquent in his opposition to the Iraq adventure.

I find it interesting that he likes Dean...
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