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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:17 PM
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Name ONE Veteran on Clark's staff
Something isn't right here. Why is Clark's staff keeping Grunts away from being volunteers? Vets are going crazy over Clark as a candidate and will vote for him. We know he is being touted as the Veteran candidate. I know of over 100 Veterans that have been told to go away by the Clark staff. What's going on here? Someone please tell me of a Viet Nam Vet who is on Clark's staff.
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:20 PM
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1. ?
I have no idea where to get a list of Clark's staff or who they've been hiring. All those people have applied for jobs, or what? What Clark staff do you speak of? I'm curious. I'm interested in what level of infrastructure he's been able to assemble already.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:22 PM
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2. Mickey Kantor
Lieutenant in the US Navy.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:35 PM
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7. Mickey, are you a Nam Vet?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:53 PM by tboullett
What position do you have in the Clark Staff?

Are you a Nam Vet?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:26 PM
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3. tboullett-why do you persist in posting this garbage?
The poster who started THIS thread began one several weeks ago concerning a bogus "Veterans Against Clark" group and also started a similar smear against Kerry several months ago.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:34 PM
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6. Crying shame, why do you hide your head in the sand?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:38 PM by tboullett
Please provide the postings about how I posted against Kerry.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:48 PM
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9. Links To Your Previous Attempts To Smear Democrats
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:55 PM by cryingshame
Here's a link to the Kerry:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=126439

Here's a link to the "Ask Administrators" post where I asked Skinner about allowing you to continue posting these threads.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=2861

The "Veterans Agaisnt Clark Thread" has since been removed from DU-but you can see the link that I put in the query.

Actually, upon searching, I found yet a SECOND "Vetererans Against Clark" thread you had started.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=35645
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:50 PM
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10. I did not smear Kerry
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:51 PM by tboullett
If you read the posting, Veterans were snubbed because Kerry didn't attend the Oklahoma Forum. Kerry at that time was the only "Veteran Candidate".

Please provide the postings where you said I smeared Kerry.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:53 PM
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11. We have since learned the snub came because Kerry will not attend the foru
From your post which I linked to:

We have since learned the snub came because Kerry will not attend the forum and the ODP thought the
Veterans might be disruptive.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:55 PM
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12. You are right
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:58 PM by tboullett
The Oklahoma Democratic party thought the Veterans would be disruptive. What proof did they have? When the forun was announced, I was asked to bring disabled Veterans to the forum. When Kerry didn't come, our tickets were not sent to us.

Where did I smear Kerry? We were going to attend to support Kerry. Please provide your links to where I smeared Kerry?

We are a group of Nam Vets that would die to work for Clark. Why can't we? Why have we been told we are not wanted, even as volunteers?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:01 AM
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17. Maybe you're assholes
I mean, I don't know, but if the ODP thought you'd be disruptive and now the Clark campaign says you'd be disruptive, maybe you're disruptive. Did you ever think of that?

Kind of like the drunk who says 'I feel so guilty'. Well, yeah, that's because you are!!
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:04 PM
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13. You have yet to show where I smeared Kerry.
Keep looking. I know what I have posted. I have never smeared Kerry. I have asked questions about why Veterans are being pushed aside by the Draftclark groups.

Why can't I and other VietNam Veterans volunteer to work in the Clark race?
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hamsterhuey Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:28 PM
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4. unfair
this is a completely unfair attack. i'm not for clark, but clark's organization hasn't even taken shape yet. they haven't even started hiring interns or have office space in DC and other places yet. If they're turning away people, it's because they dont have organization. Do you honestly think people will believe that Clark doesn't want vets on his staff? Clark took a bullet for his country. I think he deserves SOME respect.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:32 PM
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5. Not True

I spoke to someone in the Clark staff tonight who told me my assistance was not wanted, “Because Nam Vets are too unstable“. I’m talking about Vets working from anything from answering phones , opening letters, to offering advice to the General. I know of many Veterans who have been turned away because they are Vets. I was told by the Little Rock office “No Veterans Allowed”. I was told to “Contact your local Clark supporters to volunteer,” yet they had no names to give to us to talk to about volunteering.

I think Clark is being mislead by political hacks who profited from the “Draft Clark” campaigns.

If they were TRUE followers, they would be working for free, as Veterans have volunteered to do.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:37 PM
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8. I do respect the General
I have the upmost respect for the General and want him in the White House. My question is: if he is going to be the Veteran President, why are Vets, espicially Grunts from Nam, being pushed aside?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:04 PM
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14. If you respect Clark, why did you start the "Veterans Against Clark " ?
How are they doing, by the way ? Why don't you give up in this attempt to discredit anyone likely to beat Bush. It ain't going to work.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:08 PM
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16. We wanted to show how Veterans were not allowed to volunteer
Viet Nam Veterans have been shoved aside by the DraftClark groups. They were raising money because Clark was a Nam Vet. Yet when Nam Vets wanted to work in the campaign, we were turned away. Why? We tried to bring attention to this and did. We want badly to work in his race. Why can't we?
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:07 AM
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18. This Disruptor Has Been Tombstoned
Nothing more to see here, please move along. :-)

DTH
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 01:45 AM
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19. Locking
Poster has since been banned.

Taylor
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