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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:59 AM
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Past haunts Dean on Medicare issue
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 12:01 PM by Nicholas_J
By Thomas Oliphant, 9/30/2003

HAD DICK Gephardt been more politically correct last week, he would have rebuked Howard Dean for standing with Senator Pete Domenici of New Mexico on proposed Medicare cutbacks in the 1990s or with then-Representative John Kasich of Ohio. To those bosses of the newly Republican budget committee in Congress, he could have added the GOP revolutionaries running the House Ways and Means Committee -- Bill Archer of Texas and Bill Thomas of California.


Newt Gingrich, however, was a lightning rod for disbelief -- a distraction, really. Dean expressed wounded shock and horror that anyone would link him to the former speaker, who in turn tried to link slashes in eligibility and other restrictions on Medicare beneficiaries with a whopping tax cut for high-income Americans.

The truth, however, is that as a conservative Democratic governor, Dean really did do what Gephardt says he did, and his shifting attempts to wiggle off that hook have made his conduct an issue in a Democratic race that grows more serious by the week.


I have been watching this subplot to the Dean phenomenon for two months, ever since Dennis Kucinich nicked him for having supported an increase in Social Security's eligibility age -- a criticism that Dean also initially denied and then flipped on. It has happened on Social Security, on trade, on middle-class taxes, on budget-balancing policies...

Medicare is an especially big enchilada. For Gephardt to raise it is of special significance in Iowa, where he and Dean are in a dogfight in a place that has the fourth-highest concentration of retired people in the country. Dean will plead guilty to having supported a slowdown in Medicare's rate of spending growth (from 10 to 7 percent annually) -- an innocuous-sounding, almost accountant-like budget position. In fact, the proposal he supported would have restricted eligibility, called on some retired people to pay more, and used force more than incentives to require participation in managed care...

Bottom line: Gephardt and Kerry have a legitimate point, and Dean will have trouble expanding his remarkable base to the elderly and to voters of moderate means unless he does a more forthright job of facing up to his past.



http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/dean/articles/2003/09/30/past_haunts_dean_on_medicare_issue/
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:02 PM
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1. dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 12:03 PM by hippiechick
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:08 PM
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2. It can be posted in a different forum
this issue has been brought up previously. Who are YOU to tell the moderators to lock a thread?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:43 PM
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3. O.K. then, "yawn".......
Leave it open for the insomniacs....
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 02:42 PM
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5. Pardon me, but I didn't TELL them ... I asked ...
:evilfrown:


Get over yourself.



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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:26 PM
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11. Pardon - I didn't see a question - I saw a command
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:47 AM
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12. "mods, please lock" is a command? Let me suggest that you review
the meaning of the word "please".
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:01 PM
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4. It is okay.....
for the same topic to be posted in different forums. Thanks for the heads up.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 05:00 PM
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8. Nice try
but I don't think Deanies want to play the "dupe" game, at least half of Dean supporters threads could be called for that by this standard.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 04:37 PM
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6. Some day we wil all be senior
We need to respect seniors now so that we set the example for the next generation, who will be making decisons when we become seniors.

I'm doing my part by voting for Kucinich.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 04:52 PM
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7. Dean is getting hurt by this issue
Recent internal polling shows Gephardt building a 7 point edge over Dean in Iowa. It seems seniors like the medicare program.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:20 PM
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9. And it seems like Gephardt likes misleading with 8-year-old quotes.
Dean's stated clearly that he feels the situation is different now and that he would not favor raising the SS age. He's also explained the out-of-context quote that Gephardt and Kerry are so fond of where he says that Medicare is one of the worst federal programs by simply showing that the same quote went on to explain that it was the Medicare BEAUROCRACY that was the problem, not the program.

If Geppy gets a short-term bump from this, let him. By the time the Iowa Caucus rolls around, people will know how he's been "selectively" quoting Dean.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:21 PM
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10. Hey Nicholas, some Deanie just went after you on late breaking news
It was a thread about a Republican endorsement for Dean. You haven't even posted on that thread yet. I guess they don't realize how many people see through the guy.
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