Have Deanies lost perspective because of the money they donate.

[billbuckhead]

When one makes a financial investment in a cause-product-avocation-etc doesn't one lose objectivity about the about the ongoing results? "In for a penny in for a pound?" or more aptly "pouring good money after bad".

[Closer]

1. Speaking of objectivity

YOU'RE a great one to start a thread asking this question :eyes:

Because god knows, when I think objective and Dean, I think BillBuckhead.

[AWD]

2. Amen to that!

Well said!

[Cha]

3. YEah!

[KoKo]

4. Pouring good money after bad? You must be talking about Lieberman.

Now that was bad money spent. Geeze I supported Gore and had to take Lieberman in the bargain.

But, Dean is worth every penny. Most of us would give him more, if we had anything left!

[dajabr]

5. Having a real-life politician in your pocket...

Especially a Presidential candidate, feels like a dose of windowpane at Mardi-Gras. It's tough to explain...

Want a hit? http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=contribute_central

[madaboutharry]

6. Maybe we are all a little like that

This board does seem to put a spotlight on sensitivities. I am invested in Clark's campaign and if things don't pan out I might feel like I wasted some money. Its human nature, but your right that sometimes reponses seem out of proportion.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

7. Not this Deanie

I can't speak for all of us, but I am careful with my money, and I would not donate (and continue to donate) to Dean's campaign if I didn't believe he was the best candidate with the best chance to beat Bush.

"Pouring good money after bad?" Sorry, my income is not that disposable.

Dean is a great investment.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

13. Yeah but is that support transferrable to other candidates?

Is it now "Dean or bust"?

[RevolutionStartsNow]

18. Until the nominee is chosen, it is all about Dean,

but after the convention, I will support the nominee, no matter who it is. Some more enthusiastically than others, but I will absolutely work for ANY of the Dem candidates. It's just that important. (I'm not worried about having to support Lieberman, I don't think he has a very good chance.)

We can afford to be loyal to our chosen candidate right now, but if Dean doesn't get the nod, I'm not going to sulk. I'm absolutely committed to beating Bush.

<edit: clarified subject>

[a_lil_wall_fly]

8. Billbuckhead

You hit the died center of the issue from the responses that you have gotten.

[Cha]

16. No he hasn't. Just the opposite is true.

[Rose Siding]

9. Supporting Dean doesn't cost any perspective

But cynicism has taken a real hit.

[tsipple]

10. I Think the Causality Direction Goes the Other Way

I sent Dean money because I thought he was talking about important issues that ought to be heard in the Democratic Party, and I wanted him to have the funds to get his message across.

That was it, really. Results followed the money, not the other way around. At least in my case.

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[unfrigginreal]

12. Care to elaborate on why you are targeting Dean supporters?

After reading your post, it's obvious that you feel this same way about anyone that supports their candidate with money.

So, was Dean just your example to encourage a discussion on losing objectivity? Have you sent money to a candidate?

[billbuckhead]

17. Cause Deanies brag about $ the most and were reduced to defending

the CONFEDERATE FLAG by this lack of perspective. If Dean isn't the most pink tutu dem out there as a Northerner kneeling before the Confederate flag. Maybe the spinDoctor from Vermont is really unAmerican, but in different way than the repuKKKEs say he is.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

19. Yes, I was interested in asking a similar question myself

Does the financial investment prejudice opinion so much that criticism becomes less objective than without the donations?

[tedoll78]

20. Hmmm..

Love the smell of desperation.

Defending the Confederate Flag? Come on, now.. surely Dean's opponents can do better than attacking him on quotes out of context..

[billbuckhead]

30. Deanies ought quit copying the Gingrichian lexicon.Sounds desperate.

Everybody's desperate with the economy crashing during a war without limits under a government without limits. And then your guy from an all white state with less people than an urban county, tells the world, " I still want to be the candidate of the guy with a Confedrate flag bumpersticker on his pickup truck." I hope you're proud of this moron. No feeeping wonder he's Rove's (as leaked to Novak) favorite candidate. Go ahead. piss some more money down the Deanhole.

[unfrigginreal]

22. Thanks for that objective response

Some things that you may want to check out though, Dean supporters haven't been "reduced to defending the Confederate Flag". Most have been defending the Governors attempts to attract voters, that don't share your objective view of the Confederate Flag, back to the party.

Pink tutu Dems's, to the best of my knowledge, was a term coined by Bartcop. He sometimes runs a picture on his page of those that he feels the description fits. Let me get a link...ok.

http://www.bartcop.com/1191.htm

I hadn't heard the Dean is unAmerican before, sounds quite objective to me though.

[poskonig]

14. Other candidates don't get money from their supporters?

*Think* before you bash.

[Rose Siding]

29. This participatory democracy thing

is catching on but there's a way to go yet.

[Forkboy]

15. good to see this question

getting the answers it deserves.

Bitterness is very unbecoming.

[billbuckhead]

21. The Dems have invested alot of energy in this halfbaked candidate

who can't even get it right about basics like the Confederate flag and raising taxes. Zell Miller gets a lot of criticism on this board and rightly so, but Zell knew how to win elections. Dean's "talking" about race only alienates his base without gaining any votes and his raising taxes on the middleclass bullshit makes him as doomed as Dukakis-Mondale-McGovern-Stevenson. The exGubernator of Vermont's 600,000 white people is woefully unskilled to beat Bush in the Heartland let alone the south. So just keep pissing your money away, your're only hurting our chances of beating Bush while paying for it.

[dajabr]

23. If Dean's half baked, what does that say about your guy/gal...

Don't wear out that axe you're grinding...

[Cha]

25. It says that his candidate is a doughy mess.

[billbuckhead]

26. My candidate is whomever beats Dean

I'll never vote for an NRA candidate. I'll never vote for someone who addresses the CATO institute. And now that Dean has embraced the Confederate flag..........Dean is the ultimate pink tutu Dem.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

24. Time will tell

Bucket,

I feel the same way... an EX-Governor overly major Anglo state trying to convey issues of to appeal to the Southern vote. :wtf:
At least Kerry has a more hands on knowledge of minority issues in the next door state of Massachusetts, Gephardt is a little more brainy about the subject, same with all the other candidates; especially Edwards, Sharpton and Braun.

[LuminousX]

27. So now financially supporting a candidate is bad

Are they spinning the $50 people have 'invested' in Dean as someway Dean having some mystical hold on them now?

STOP! Don't donate to the candidate you support!!

[Punkingal]

28. Locking....

flamebait.

punkingal, DU moderator