NAFTA: 10 YEARS IS ENOUGH

[genius]

From the Kucinich campaign
NAFTA: 10 YEARS IS ENOUGH

Monday, Nov. 17, will be the 10-year anniversary of the House vote on NAFTA. Dennis Kucinich has promised to make repeal of NAFTA and withdrawal from the WTO his first act in office as president. This weekend Kucinich will speak on NAFTA at three rallies in Iowa.
http://www.kucinich.us/pressreleases/pr_111403a.php


DENNIS RECOMMENDS THIS BOOK

"The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq," by Christopher Scheer, Lakshmi Chaudhry and Robert Scheer. It is an insightful and incisive primer exposing the misinformation campaign George Bush's White House used to secure the support of Congress, the media, and a majority of Americans for a preemptive invasion and occupation of Iraq. http://www.alternet.org/fivelies

DOES AMERICA WANT WOMEN TO REGISTER FOR DRAFT?

At a recent Planned Parenthood forum in New Hampshire, John Kerry, Wesley Clark, and Howard Dean supported requiring 18-year-old women to register for the military draft, as 18-year-old men are now required to do. Dennis opposed this further expansion of war into our culture. He favors working to eliminate mandatory draft registration for men. Here's a transcript: http://www.kucinich.us/cand_on_draft_for_women.php

CUBA: WE NEED A NEW APPROACH

Today Dennis Kucinich said: "Even though both houses of Congress had passed identical amendments eliminating funding to enforce the ban on traveling to Cuba, the ban remains in place. This is because a conference committee meeting behind closed doors overruled the Congress and took out the language which would have removed the funding that enforces the ban. The United States' Cuba policy is a failure. The unilateral embargo must be lifted The persistently hostile and aggressive rhetoric must cease. We must lift not only the trade embargo. We must also lift the travel ban We must cooperate with Cuba on issues of national security. It is time to create a new era in Cuban-American relations."

WATCH VIDEO ONLINE

Watch a video of Danny Glover, Congresswoman Barbara Lee, and Dennis Kucinich speaking on Nov. 2 in Oakland, Calif.: http://tinyurl.com/v090

DENNIS AGREES TO DINNER DATE

At the same Planned Parenthood forum mentioned above, Dennis, a bachelor, joked about who his ideal First Lady would be. A news website at http://www.politicsnh.com/mrskucinich.html took Dennis at his word and launched a contest for a dinner date with the presidential candidate. They are posting profiles of interested single women, and at some point will let readers pick the best potential First Lady. Politics NH has proposed to fly the winner to New Hampshire to meet and dine with Dennis. Yesterday Dennis accepted their gracious offer and agreed to go out to dinner with one of the many women who are posting their information on the site.

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[dpbrown]

1. NAFTA needs to go, Bush showed us how to do it with ICBM Treaty withdrawal

Dennis is, once again, right-on in his assessment of what we need to do to make our nation great again.

[MrSoundAndVision]

2. Oh and I just can't wait!

until that happens. It's going to be a very interesting year I think. Kucinich's platform will sell itself.

[Padraig18]

4. If it's selling so well, why is he DROPPING in the polls? n/t

[MrSoundAndVision]

11. Oh leave it be

You and I have argued many times about that, polls are easily, EASILY manipulated. Now I know you're not much of a theorist, but I think I've seen a lot a coordinated action in the media to marginalize Kucinich's campaign. You've taken the SelectSmart poll, and you've seen the results (Kucinich wins when it's just stances on the issues, no name), thus the media hasn't done a good enough job telling the public each candidates' stand on the issues while offering a fair analysis of each issue.

This is SO obvious to Kucinich supporters. The SelectSmart quiz backs it up. Watching how journalists treat Kucinich supports this. But you can't see that because they give you polls. Well they are not the same issue frankly Padraig. They are distinct things. While you question my confidence in Kucinich, I question your agreeing with a media which deliberately hasn't informed the public on the issues. Do you an uninformed public today will make the right decision about who should be president, or an more informed public 3 months from now?

Kucinich is poised to become an "overnight success", and it's true: he's poised. We (the supporters of Dennis Kucinich) have a job to do, and that job is to better inform people on the issues.

http://www.kucinich.us

[Padraig18]

12. Whatever you say.

Wake me when the Tooth Fairy comes, too.

[MrSoundAndVision]

13. Oh so

clever, always the clever one.

[Padraig18]

15. We'll see.

And $500 to a stale donut says DK *isn't* the nominee.

[MrSoundAndVision]

16. Okay but

what exactly do you mean by that Padraig? Don't you think it's a good thing for the public to be more informed? Don't you think that they would want NAFTA and the WTO cancelled if they knew what it meant.

See your candidate isn't interested in that, he's not interested in informing people on this issue (and others), because his campaign has abided by some formula based on stereotypes of public points of view (polls even) to determine policy. Well that's not what the president's function is supposed to be. That's more what the legislature's role is. The president must be a great man or woman, not an opportunist.

[Maple]

3. Ain't gonna happen folks

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[MrSoundAndVision]

17. Yeah well

so what? You've just given up. And I'm not afraid to lose. So in the meantime, I'm doing my best for this. And all you can do is be dismissive. Go join the dismissive party.

[jody]

5. Unilaterally break the NAFTA treaty. The Chapter 11 abuses alone are

enough to justify breaking the treaty. Why would anyone surrender the sovereignty of their government to an international arbitration panel?

The only reason is multinational corporations will receive better treament from arbitration panels they control than they would in US courts still closely watched by the People. New World Order corporatists bribed the People's representatives giving the People another cross to bear. :puke: on NAFTA

[Maple]

6. LOLOL

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[jody]

7. Those who will not fight have already lost. eom

[Padraig18]

8. Those who jump on a sinking ship drown with the rest of the crew. eom

[jody]

9. You should google "nafta" and find out how many organizations

oppose NAFTA. Have an educational experience. :hi:

[Padraig18]

10. I'm well acquainted with NAFTA and its shortcomings.

Have a nice day. :hi:

[ThirdWheelLegend]

18. ok

So let's not do anything about it?

:shrug:

[Desertrose]

19. for those who have nothing to contribute, its best to ignore 'em

..if they had something worth while to offer beyond their own narrow thought boxes, it'd be different, ya know?

There's just some posters you know what they are going to say before they post it LOL

Peace
DR

NAFTA can't really be" fixed"...why do some act as though the world will end if we get rid of it...not the way I understand it....:shrug:

[MrSoundAndVision]

22. He hasn't replied to me in at least three posts which

contained direct addressing to him in all three, and invited comment, but I get nothing.

It's sad he's one of the more active posters in this area, because he certainly is not representative. I think those potential users out there seek more than one liners, more than easy dismissals, they want debate, Jeffersonian debate, or they want to prove their right about their own ideology.

Have I told you what a rose in the midst of the deep dark lonely desert you are, truly an open rose at night. Good night.

[Padraig18]

24. Re: not replying

Pardon me for getting up at 3:00 a.m. every day, but it rather throws my schedule out of kilter with most 'day-shift' folks, i.e., 7:00 p.m. is to me what 11:00 p.m. or midnight is to most of the rest of you; hence, most nights I won't reply past 8:00 CST simply because I need to eat, sleep and spend time with my boyfriend, OK?

In brief, the major problems with NAFTA and the WTO are their failures: to protect the right to collective bargaining, to abolish coerced and child labor, to enforce acceptable environmental standards and to protect other basic worker rights such as freedom of association and protection from discrimination. These issues must not be left to be addressed by 'side agreements', but must be incorporated into the body of the main agreemenst themselves, so as to be uniform.

Neither NAFTA nor the WTO have lived up to their promises of job growth or 'free trade', and must either be scrapped or modified so as to address those (and other) problems.

[MrSoundAndVision]

20. And they are...

what Padraig? Iterate them.

[genius]

23. The sinking ship is the NAFTA supporters. California children

and expectant motheres are being poisoned every day because of the supporters of NAFTA. Perhaps we should change the anti-Bush chant to "Hey NAFTA, what do you say? How many babies did you kill today?"

[Name removed]

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[ThirdWheelLegend]

21. "The idealism we're told should be sacrificed for pragmatism.."

These are quotes from the speech linked above...
by Dennis K:

http://tinyurl.com/v090

He goes on to say that people say:
".......there is a point at which we have to be pragmatic and put our dreams aside, and i would submit to you that at no time in the history of the this country, beginning with the founding, has the history of the american eveoltuion ever been propelled by people putting aside their ideals."

People need to hear this man speak. If the media would stop shoving 'our choices' down our throat and give coverage to someone who speaks for the people and not the establishment, we could have REAL change.


TWL

[snoochie]

25. Damn straight.

These other guys want to keep NAFTA, want to draft women, want to continue to wage wars for empire (IMO).

What the hell are people thinking?!!