BEAUTIFUL response on downsizing

[cactusrose]

This is so good I have to share it. It's a reply by someone who knows the score to a winger who is giving a "buck up, bucky, it's all your fault, quit your whining" response to a woman who may lose her home because of downsizing.

BTW, the particular winger who is being torn a new one is known for her narcissism. Even by winger standards, this woman is extreme in narcissism. The woman who may lose her home is also a winger. So far, it's been the non-wingers ("liberals") who have been sympathetic to the woman's plight. They aren't rubbing her nose in it or making comments about Bush, just telling her they're sorry she may lose her home and how much something like that hurts. Her fellow wingers are giving her grief and even kicking her when she's down. It's true that wingers eat their own.

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[Bluzmann57]

1. As a person who has been through "downsizing"

I find some of those responses truly objectionable. Yeah yeah, "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" is nice, but it isn't reality in some cases. The woman who posted the tripe about the person who may lose their house is just not based in reality. There are indeed jobs out there, but they don't pay well and as the responder said, it is just not easy for those of us in our 40's and 50's to start over. I've done it twice and do not care to do it again.

[cactusrose]

3. Update on downsized woman who may lose her home

Here is an update on the downsized winger who may lose her home. Instead of starting to reevaluate her worship of the fraud, she's continuing to do his and the Republicans dirty work. This is from another thread on the board. I'm quoting my reply to her because I make an important point in it. There are some people who will choose making others suffer over improving their own lives and situations. I know that practically everyone on this board realized that some time ago, but you're going to be dealing with people who haven't yet caught onto this. I wish somebody had pointed this out to me when I was younger and struggling with some people like this. The scales would have fallen off my eyes a lot sooner than they did.

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SHook claims:

"I laugh everytime you libs come up with a new "lie" supposedly told by our wonderful President. Then I tell myself these are the same people who worship at the feet of the grifter couple from Ark. No bigger liars or crooks ever lived, period."

How about the lie that Bush policies are good for the economy and for America? Perhaps SHook will enlighten us as to how well that's working out for her and many other Americans.

Most people when faced with a choice between improving their situations or making the lives of others miserable will choose (without hesitation) improving their own lot in life. It's no contest for them.

Unfortunately, there is a minority of the population who when faced with that same choice choose making others suffer. No matter how much worse their own lives and situations continue to become they refuse to let go of supporting some very bad and even evil people and doing their dirty work for them. As long as they are convinced that others can be made to suffer worse than they are, they are satisfied - no matter how bad things get for them. Their masters know this about them, and their masters exploit their weakness and flaw to the hilt.

If one is not super rich, Bush and the current Republican leadership could not care less about the person. No matter how much the person sacrifices for Bush and cronies. Unfortunately, for a certain type of person, the attraction of Bush and cronies making others suffer is stronger than improving their own situation. And they will continue to worship him.

[CrispyQ]

2. Lots of people are mistakenly confident that it will never happen to them.

They'll never be let go for nebulous reasons. I've seen it many times. The ones who put in many hours for their company, certain that this will keep them secure in their job, are suddenly let go for some stupid reason like, "We simply don't need this position anymore." And the company changes the job description a bit, maybe moves it under a different manager & starts the hiring process to fill it with someone new.

I've seen it again & again -- they will cut you loose at the drop of a hat. There is no loyalty to the work force & sadly the companies take advantage of worker loyalty. You can put in years of quality work, get along, fit in & suddenly you get a new manager that dislikes you for some reason & you're gone.

These unsympathetic people have just not had it happen to them yet, but it will.

[cactusrose]

4. They think they're somehow "special", magically protected somehow

If one wants to know how someone or something (like corporate America and their politicians) will treat oneself, just take a look at how they treat others.

Unfortunately, there still are a lot of Americans who have not learned that very simple thing. Nor have they learned that no matter how much they sacrifice for the company or the party or whatever, it's never going to be enough to protect them from the type of people who do these things to others. The people who do these type of things regard them just like they regard others: As nothing more than things to be used up and thrown away.

[mhr]

5. Unemployed 5 Years - 2000 - 2005 - The Wingers Can Kiss My &#@

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[Warpy]

6. I've been unemployed for a little over 2 1/2 years

but I'm far luckier than most. I just inherited enough to keep me going until social security and my laughably low nursing pension kick in, if I'm very careful.

Before I inherited, I was living on $800/month, $560 of which went to my mortgage. That means beans and rice and hope you don't get sick.

The jobs I counted on when my back got too bad to do bedside nursing have been shipped to India by competing hospitals in a cutthroat situation. There has been absolutely nothing available that doesn't require a strong back.

The cheap labor conservatives in both parties who failed to protect us can not only kiss my flabby ass, they can eat shit and die, the sooner the better.

I want my country back. I want the men who sold us out to be stripped of all their wealth and their fat Congressional pensions. I want them poor for a change.

[mhr]

7. Amen

"I want my country back. I want the men who sold us out to be stripped of all their wealth and their fat Congressional pensions. I want them poor for a change."

[fasttense]

8. What is wrong with those right wingers who think company guaranteed

benefits are some kind of free give away?

Don't they realize those benefits were guaranteed in exchange for paying the person less. Do they really believe that corporations gave out benefits to employees out of the kindness of their hearts?

I watched my now deceased father carefully evaluate two job offerers back in 1985. He chose the lesser paying one because it offered a better medical plan for his widow. He was willing to get less pay in exchange for ensuring that his wife would be taken care of in her old age. And guess what? The company has discontinued the prescription drug plan thanks to the passing of the new prescription drug plan under Medicare. My mother is 78, recovering from breast cancer and now has to pay out thousands of dollars to cover her drugs where before she paid only about $10. If what the company did was illegal, well they chose the right victim. My mother does not have the money or energy to fight them in court to gain back the benefits Dad worked for. He worked there for twenty years at hundreds of dollars less believing the guaranteed benefits contract would actually be honored by the corporation. There was no clause that said if the company thinks benefits become too expensive they would stop paying for them.

What do these idiots think? Do they honestly believe the benefits employees get are just a free bonus? As if these employees didn't work for the benefits that were guaranteed. As if corporations were a special class of people and didn't have to honor their contracts where it said benefits for life. You and I would be required to honor those contracts if it said work for life. But somehow corporation are exempt from keeping their contractual obligations. What a scam.

[Democrats_win]

9. Wingers should either STFU or lend a hand. They are a disgrace to humans!

We shouldn´t be surprised that the idle rich do nothing but bh about the people who did all the work in this country and weren´t fairly paid.