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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:46 PM
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Six Ways to Protect Yourself With FDIC Insurance
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:30 PM by Dover
Special Report on FDIC Insurance

Six Ways to Protect Yourself With FDIC Insurance
If you or your family have less than $100,000 in all your deposit accounts at the same insured institution, you don't need to worry about your insurance coverage. But if you have funds at one institution totaling $100,000 or more, and if it's important to you that all your funds be insured, here's a sensible approach for protecting yourself:

1 Make an accounting of all your accounts at the bank. "If you expect to conduct a thorough, accurate review of your deposit insurance," says Lesylee Sullivan, an FDIC insurance claims specialist in Dallas, "you need to be aware of all the accounts your family owns at an institution, the types of accounts, and the names of the beneficiaries." She notes that the beneficiaries especially matter with payable-on-death (POD) accounts because a spouse, child, grandchild, parent or sibling qualify the account for extra insurance but other relatives don't.

2 Read the FDIC pamphlet "Your Insured Deposits." This brochure, the FDIC's primary consumer publication devoted to deposit insurance, explains the rules in a simple, question-and-answer format. See "For More Information" for details about how to obtain a copy.

3 Consider asking "EDIE," the FDIC's Electronic Deposit Insurance Estimator. This interactive Web site estimates your coverage based on your answers to a series of questions about your accounts. EDIE is simple to use and can be accessed at the FDIC's Web site, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, at Electronic Deposit Insurance Estimator.

4 Double check with an FDIC expert. Helping depositors and bankers with deposit insurance questions is a big part of the FDIC's work. So, for peace of mind, it's smart to get an independent confirmation of your understanding of the insurance rules and your insurance status from the FDIC. See "For More Information" for phone numbers and addresses.

5 Make adjustments to your accounts, if necessary, to bring them within the insurance limit. In general, there are two options for fully insuring deposits over $100,000.

First option: You can divide the funds among various types of accounts at the same institution, because different categories are separately insured to $100,000, but this is an option you need to think about carefully. "It means you are changing the legal ownership of the funds, either now or upon your death, just to increase your insurance coverage," says Kathleen Nagle, a supervisor with the agency's Division of Compliance and Consumer Affairs in Washington. "Before you do that, you should understand how a change in account category affects your rights and the rights of any beneficiaries to your funds." Example: You can shift some funds from a payable-on-death account to a joint account, but be aware that co-owners of your joint account will be able to access the money while you are alive.

Second option: You can move funds in excess of $100,000 to accounts at other insured institutions, and keep no more than $100,000 at each institution. This option works well for people who don't want, or don't qualify for, another type of account at their existing bank. Moving some funds to another bank also is a good choice for people who just aren't sure how the insurance rules allow them to keep more than $100,000 at one bank and still be fully protected, adds Washington-based attorney Christopher Hencke. "Your safest approach," he says, "is to divide your funds among several insured banks so that your total funds at any one bank do not exceed $100,000."

6 Periodically review your insurance coverage. A one-time checkup on your deposit insurance coverage isn't enough for individuals or families with close to or more than $100,000 at one institution. Here are suggestions for when to take another look:

Before you open a new account. Follow the steps described previously to find out what effect the new account would have on your insurance coverage. FDIC Chicago attorney Christine Tullio also suggests that you keep a list of the accounts that you and other family members hold at one institution, so you can easily remember which accounts to figure into your insurance calculations.

After the death of a loved one. The rules allow a six-month grace period after a depositor's death to give survivors or estate planners a chance to restructure accounts. If you fail to act within six months, you run the risk of, say, joint accounts becoming part of the survivor's individual accounts, and that could put the funds over the $100,000 limit.

If a large windfall comes your way. If you sell your house or receive a large payment from a trust, a pension, a lawsuit or an insurance claim, make sure any deposits, especially those made on your behalf by third parties, won't put you over the $100,000 limit.

If you own accounts at two institutions that merge, and the combined funds exceed $100,000. Accounts at the two institutions before the merger would continue to be separately insured for six months after the merger, and longer for some CDs, but you have to remember to review the accounts within the grace period to avoid a potential problem with excess funds.


http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/news/cnfall01/sixways.html



Knowing Your Insurance On Bank Accounts Is Key

...The basics

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which has a $53-billion reserve and full backing of the U.S. Treasury, stands behind deposits of as much as $100,000 per person, per bank.

In the event of a bank failure, those who have less than that amount in the failed institution can get a check for the entire amount from the FDIC immediately.

Depositors can get significantly more insurance coverage by managing the legal ownership of their accounts, but it can be a little complex.

There are five different types of legal ownership of a bank account, and each is treated differently when it comes to deposit insurance. The big differences involve accounts owned individually, jointly, as a business, as a retirement plan or as a trust of some kind.

* Accounts set up under "individual" and "joint" ownership are added together to determine whether they exceed the FDIC's $100,000 per person, per bank limit on deposit insurance.

Thus, if Jane Smith has a $100,000 certificate of deposit in her name alone and shares another $100,000 account with her husband, $50,000 of her assets would be uninsured...cont'd

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-perfin20-2008jul20,0,5437081.column

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More specifics to understand:

Lessons from Losses: What You Can Learn from Recent Bank Failures

http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/money/fdicins/fdicinslesson.htm
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:49 PM
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1. How many people have substantial money in a bank earning 1% per anum? It's all in
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 10:50 PM by The_Casual_Observer
totally uninsured 401-k plans & shit & they aim to keep it that way.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:07 PM
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2. Some of that is covered isn't it?
* Many types of retirement accounts -- IRAs, 457 plans, self-directed 401(k)s and Keoghs -- get separate and expanded coverage of as much as $250,000 per owner. Unfortunately, teacher retirement plans, called 403(b) accounts, do not.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-perfin20-2008jul20,0,5437081.column?page=2
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 PM
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3. I have never heard of one that came with any guarantees.
Ever.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:07 AM
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8. There's no investment guarantee. There's only FDIC guarantee
if the bank fails and the IRA is held at the bank.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:07 AM
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7. You're referring to the higher FDIC limits of protection on IRAs, etc.
held AT the bank or credit union, right? Very few 401(k)'s would be given such protection, as most banks don't offer solo-401 plans.

And still the protection is on the account in the event that the BANK goes belly-up.

There's no protection against market losses.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:24 AM
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9. I was referring to this :
Certain Retirement Accounts
These are deposit accounts owned by one person and titled in the name of that person’s retirement plan. Only the following types of retirement plans are insured in this ownership category:

Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) including traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs, Simplified Employee Pension (SEP) IRAs, and Savings Incentive Match Plans for Employees (SIMPLE) IRAs
Section 457 deferred compensation plan accounts (whether self-directed or not)
Self-directed defined contribution plan accounts
Self-directed Keogh plan (or H.R. 10 plan) accounts
All deposits that an individual has in any of the types of retirement plans listed above at the same insured bank are added together and the total is insured up to $250,000. For example, if an individual has an IRA and a self-directed Keogh account at the same bank, the deposits in both accounts would be added together and insured up to $250,000.

Naming beneficiaries on a retirement account does not increase deposit insurance coverage.

Note: For information about FDIC insurance coverage for a type of retirement plan not listed above, refer to the FDIC resources on the back of this brochure.

http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insuringdeposits/
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:29 AM
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10. Right. FDIC insurance only applies to retirement accounts held
at a bank or credit union. And the insurance does nothing to protect against market losses.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:23 PM
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4. well, none of this applies to me, I barely have two pennies to rub together!
...and even if I DID...you know thet best way to save?

see your backyard?

....bring a coffee can and a shovel!!!
:rofl:
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:15 AM
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6. You are right: at least you don't have to pay bank fees that way.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:53 PM
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5. Anyone know about CDARS?
Welcome to CDARS

CDARS® is the Certificate of Deposit Account Registry Service®. And it's the most convenient way to enjoy full FDIC insurance on deposits of up to $50 million. With CDARS, you sign one agreement with a participating local bank or other financial institution of your choice, earn one interest rate, and receive one regular statement. It's that easy.


CDARS is the perfect solution for many depositors — from non-profits and public funds to businesses, advisors (including trustees, CPAs, financial planners and lawyers) and individuals, as well as socially-motivated investors.


You've worked hard for your money. Now let it work hard for you. See for yourself
http://www.cdars.com/index.php
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