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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 12:57 PM
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Poll question: Can you name a non-unionized auto firm that's in as much financial trouble as GM?
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 12:58 PM by Boojatta
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:00 PM
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1. name a non-union auto firm
that's as large as the GM etc
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:04 PM
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3. Are you suggesting that big firms are inherently at risk of financial trouble?
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:28 PM by Boojatta
Can you name one investor who has a policy of not investing in big firms and who has been approximately as successful (as an investor) as Warren Buffett was in his first eight years of investing? Is it possible that Warren Buffett has simply experienced a long series of lucky investment results and that his investment strategy is no less risky than the strategy of investing in junk bonds?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:04 PM
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15. no
I just want the name of non-union company that's as big as GM

you can't compare apples and oranges here

a non-union firm with 10 employees would have different financial issues than a big one like GM
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:35 PM
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18. You didn't merely ask for the name of non-union company that's as big as GM.
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 02:35 PM by Boojatta
You asked for the name of a non-union auto firm that's as big as GM.

To me, that suggests a question that might be of some interest: how much of a company's business must be auto-related for it to be considered an auto firm?

Another question: when a company first becomes profitable, should it diversify by getting into at least one line of business unrelated to its original products or services?
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:01 PM
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2. What is your point?
Looks like a push poll to me.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:06 PM
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4. My first thought also!!
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:09 PM
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5. Can you put forward a poll option that you would like to see?
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:13 PM by Boojatta
I cannot recall ever citing the results of any DU poll that I created. So why would I create a "push poll"? If nobody voted in this poll, but it sparked a good discussion, then I'd be quite satisfied with it.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:26 PM
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9. Sure
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:28 PM by gristy
Add this one: "This is a push poll designed to obtain a result that supports the poster's point of view"

on edit, add this one too: "This is a poorly designed poll, and I choose not to participate"
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:41 PM
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13. "designed to obtain a result that supports the poster's point of view"
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:41 PM by Boojatta
Interesting allegation! Perhaps I have been focusing too much of my attention on areas of agreement. Perhaps I have neglected to identify areas of disagreement. If I were to find an area of disagreement and actually request explanations, then maybe some people who disagree with me on some matters would be willing to share their thoughts or ideas with me.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:21 PM
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7. Your conclusion ("looks like a push poll") isn't very enlightening with no explanation.
What does your conclusion mean? For example, can a poll be a push poll regardless of what answer options are provided and based entirely on the poll question? What makes you suspect that your conclusion is true? How might you go about justifying your conclusion? What is the significance of your conclusion?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:11 PM
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6. Get lost. You don't belong on here. We DUers believe unions are good
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 01:18 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
for industry, and don't need half-baked questions from impractical right-wing ideologues. It's they who have taken the world to this precipice. You should be "tarred and feathered" for having the gall to come on here with a question like that?

I worked for a Ford truck plant in England and it was compulsory. That is the way it shoud be. Scabs don't deserve the wage gains and improved working conditions won only as a result of the sometimes heroic endeavours of organised labour.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:25 PM
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8. Ridiculous post with a very clear agenda...BS
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:30 PM
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10. Is it clear enough that you can express it in words?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:39 PM
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12. Push poll with intent to place blame on unions..
Which is clearly without foundation for anyone who gets their information from sources other than RW news.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:08 PM
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17. How do you determine blame?
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 02:12 PM by Boojatta
If each of a hundred persons has been working full-time, at minimum wage, for at least two years, and if none of them owns a genuine Rolex watch, then would you offer each of them a loan to buy a Rolex watch with the expectation that it would help them to get raises or promotions, or higher-paying jobs?
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 01:31 PM
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11. Push Poll NT
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:04 PM
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14. What's the matter? You don't like unions? Is that your point?
Why is a freeper attitude being posted here?
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 02:06 PM
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16. It's a "B"ush Poll!
Combine Bullshit & Push..and ya get a Bush Poll..

but then again, aren't they the same?

I'm confused..maybe I'll lie down and watch Tom & Jerry..
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 03:26 PM
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19. What is with you and non-sensical polls? nt
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 05:41 PM
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20. Nissan before Renault took them over around 1999
Technically both Nissan and Renault bought each other stock and entered into an "Alliance", but the Nissan stock purchased by Renault is full voting stock, while the stock Nissan bought in Renault was NON-VOTING. In effect Renault purchased Nissan, but do to so in a way to keep the image that Nissan was still a Japanese Company.

Samsung is another example. Samsung motors was sold by Samsung to Renault when Samsung motors ran into some economic problems.

For more an Renault-Nissan:
http://www.dieselnet.com/news/1999/03nissan.php
http://www.renault.com/renault_com/en/main/10_GROUPE_RENAULT/_51_Alliance/

Sumsung-Renault:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Samsung_Motors
http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=11383
http://www.motorauthority.com/samsung-switching-from-nissan-to-renault-platforms.html
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