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FieldsBlank Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:15 PM
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Seeds of the Meltdown
I thought this article written last fall was an interesting read
it may be too long to post here in its entirety
so follow the link if you'd like to read the remainder

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The meltdown and the bailout
why, how, and what they mean

By John Silveira


To understand how the recent meltdown and bailout came about, you have to know what brought them on. According to some, there are PhDs who have problems grasping what happened. I don't know if that's true, but I don't think it has to be made that difficult.

If you're unfamiliar with some of the terms and the entities that are spoken of when discussing the issue, let's start here:

subprime — This refers to borrowers with income levels that are too low, or who made extremely small down payments when buying a home (or no down payments at all), or have poor credit histories, or shaky employment (or none at all). They're the kind of borrowers traditional bankers do not want. Hence, they're less than prime.

Fannie Mae — the Federal National Mortgage Association founded in 1938 under FDR, but made a "private" corporation in 1968, under Lyndon Johnson, as a Government Sponsored Enterprise (GSE). What you have to know about Fannie is that it's a quasi-government enterprise and that it doesn't grant mortgages. It buys mortgages from banks and other lending institutions, thereby creating a fluid "mortgage market." This is thought to be important for ensuring the availability of money for mortgages.

Freddie Mac — Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, another GSE. Other institutions couldn't compete with Fannie, so the government "invented" Freddie to compete with it.

Something else you must know about Fannie and Freddie is that they are the only two corporations in the Fortune 500 that, by government "regulation," do not have to make their accounting public to either the public or investors. This would eventually create problems.

You should also understand that in the "old days," when you got a mortgage it was almost always through a local bank. The bank loaned out the depositors' money and charged the mortgager interest. The bank held the "paper" or deed to the property and took the risk. It then used the interest paid against the mortgage to pay the depositors interest on their savings and took a portion of it to run the bank and make a profit. It worked.

But, nowadays, the bank is more likely to sell your mortgage and take the money it receives and loan it out, again. To whom is the mortgage sold? Often, it's Fannie or Freddie.

Under the old arrangement the local bank was responsible and accountable and the type of meltdown we so recently witnessed could not have happened.

Seeds of the meltdown

The seeds of the meltdown and bailout were planted with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977, passed into law under Jimmy Carter. The intent of the CRA was to ensure banks gave housing loans to low-income families. The Act wasn't just to encourage the banks, it actually created penalties with stiff fines for banks that didn't commit to making those loans, even if the bankers were convinced those loans were risky.

On the heels of the Act's passing came activist groups, such as the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) which began to ensure—and often bully—banks into making nontraditional loans. If banks didn't comply, the activists took them to court contending the loans were denied because of racist policies, not sound financial policies. The result was that banks, to avoid harassment and fines, began to lower credit standards—everywhere. They began granting mortgages to subprime borrowers.

Then, in 1993, under Bill Clinton, Fannie and Freddie were directed to increase the number of subprime loans they were carrying. Though there was initially some resistance, legislation was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress so the loans were ultimately guaranteed by...are you ready...you and me, the taxpayers. With pressure from regulators and the guarantee the taxpayers would bail them out, Fannie and Freddie understandably gave in and bought even more of these mortgages.

Finally, just months before Clinton left office, Fannie and Freddie were told they had to increase the number of subprime loans until they equalled half of what they carried in their portfolios. No prudent lender would have taken these risks, but Clinton felt Fannie and Freddie, both GSEs and both backed by the taxpayer, could "afford" to.

By 2004, many lending institutions realized Fannie and Freddie would buy up these mortgages, so they too could afford to grant these risky loans and "sell" them, along with their risks, to Fannie and Freddie. Hey, it wasn't just legal, it was what the Congress and community activists wanted. In all fairness, although the problem originated with Democratic Party policies, when the Republicans had a chance to correct it...well, they weren't going to be the bad guys who turned off the mortgage spigot.

In 2001, and now in control of both the Congress and the White House, many Republicans pretended that the CRA, Fannie, and Freddie were not problems just as the Democrats had done before them. Part of the reason seems to be that many Republicans, just as were many Democrats, were taking substantial campaign contributions from the two GSEs, and there was also the danger at that time that if you spoke out against the lending practices that today we know were unsound, you would be vilified by the press and castigated by community groups—accused of being anti-poor, racist, or both. It was better to lay low, ignore the problem, and hope it would go away. And if it didn't go away, you hoped at least you wouldn't get blamed. .............



Conclusion

We don't yet know if the bailout is going to work. And it most likely won't. We don't even know if there are going to be more bailouts, though there are already stirrings in Washington that there will not only be more money needed for the subprime mess, but there's already talk abut bailing out the auto industry, student loans, credit card companies, various states, and who knows who else is asking to be "saved."

But this bailout and and future bailouts are clear signals from Washington that it's okay to engage in risky economic behavior because you and I will pick up the tab when they fail. Those who get bailed out are always grateful, while those who pay for the bailout usually don't understand that they're the ones paying for it either directly through their taxes or by having their money eroded by inflation. And the politicians and bureaucrats are grateful for it because there are always strings attached to these bailouts and they aggrandize more power. This bailout is actually more socialization of the banking industry; future bailouts will be for the socialization of America, creating more centralized control of America from Washington.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/silveira115lw.html


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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 03:37 PM
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1. RW bullshit.
Those seeds wouldn't have grown into much of anything without securitization and credit default swaps. It's the huge leverage, the side bets and the lies about the risks that have ruined the economy.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:10 PM
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3. Bingo Cassandra. The "crisis" was created by greedy financial parasites creating financial
instruments out of thin air.
They have several hundred times the Gross World Product floating around in the unregulated derivative markets. How are we supposed to fix that fraud?
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Narkos Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:04 PM
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2. Please stop posting a rehash of old wingnut talking points
Seriously, we all get this crap from our right wing relatives through e-mail, we don't need it here. Thanks.
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FieldsBlank Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:06 PM
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5. sorry
I'm sorry if this should not have been posted here.
Personally, I don't care if an article is left or right leaning, as long as its factual.

I thought this piece made some good points, even if the author is a bit right of center.
But, obviously if you were offended, then I screwed up posting it here.

I'm new, still getting a feel for the place. Won't happen again.
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Narkos Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:57 PM
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6. It's not center right, it's right out of Faux News
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 07:00 PM by Narkos
Seriously, there's much better information out there.
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FieldsBlank Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 08:43 PM
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7. point taken
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 08:54 PM by FieldsBlank
Nobody hates Faux News more than I do, and nobody was more disgusted by the 2000 election than I was, or the 8 years of hell that followed
And watching Keith eviscerate those people day after day has brought me immense satisfaction over the years

That said, I do not see how you could possible compare the above article to the likes of Hannity or O'reilly
I haven't fact checked all of that author's assertions, but it certainly did not strike me as a purely partisan piece

Carter, Clinton, and many other Democrats must share in the blame over this economic mess
The government did in fact encourage mortgages be given to low and moderate income persons, well-meaning I'm sure, but ill-advised just the same
Obviously, the Repubs shirked their oversight responsibilities during King George's term, but this entire catastrophe can not be laid at their feet

Again, I'm sorry for adding that piece
I honestly had no idea it would be viewed so negatively



No further replies are necessary
let this mistake sink to the bottom of the DU abyss







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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 12:28 PM
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9. Please don't apologize
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 12:55 PM by lfairban
I have been very slow to muster the patience to look into this mess for some real answers. This thread is just what I was looking for.

Reading the OP, I remembered that I heard Paul Krugman say that there are those who will blame this mess on loans for low income housing and that they will continue to do so even though the numbers don't add up.

Then I remembered "Meltdown" on PBS. If it was low income loans from Freddie and Fannie, how did Bear Sterns, Lehman and AIG get caught up?

For the Bush Administration role in this debacle, read This Thread.
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Coes Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:45 AM
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12. the investment banks went first
subprime lending did not cause this crisis
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:13 PM
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10. It's not..
... the CRA has almost NOTHING to do with this problem. Do you really think all those bad loans made in CA, FL, NV, etc were made to low-income people? Look at the size of the mortgages.

This is typical RW bullshit to deflect the blame from where it REALLY belongs, SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE "DEREGULATE, DEREGULATE, DEREGULATE" crowd.

If you want the REAL seed of this disaster look no further than the rider shoved into the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act that put Credit Default Swaps outside of the purview of government regulation. It is THESE TOXIC "ASSETS" that are crippling the banking system as we speak.

The "DEREGULATE, DEREGULATE, DEREGULATE" crowd having learned nothing from history have taken our country to the brink of disaster again. Don't let them tell you it wasn't their fault.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:52 PM
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4. Garbage.
Bear Stearns rolled over and died because they had $349 billion in liabilities secured by $11 billion in assets. They were just the first. The entire US banking system is now insolvent because giant interstate banks, paired with giant investment banks created an entire $4 TRILLION industry out of mortgage-backed securities whose underlying values were around 3 percent of the money being thrown around.

Personally, I like seeing this kind of misinformation continuing to make the rounds in the wingnut community. Creating fantasies about why the market is melting down means that there is a pool of delusional fools I can make money of off when the time comes for some reality-based investing.

Taking money from wingnuts due to their ideological idiocy and putting it in my own pockets makes me very, very happy.:evilgrin:
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:12 PM
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8. Here is a link to more complete information.
http://www.geocities.com/jwalkerxy/Credit_Catastrophe_facts.htm


The Clinton administration explicitly discouraged Fannie and Freddie from buying predatory subprime loans. A report on predatory lending in 2000 from a task force formed by the Treasury Department and the Department of Housing and Urban Development called for Congress to enact legislation to “prohibit the purchase by each of these entities of predatory loans.”

Furthermore, Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers and Gary Gensler, an undersecretary of the Treasury, were severely criticized by the Republican Congress in 1999 and 2000 when they called for reforms to address the systemic risk from Fannie and Freddie and to reconsider their government line of credit. When the Clinton administration left office, the two mortgage firms were still bit players in the subprime market.



The important legislation was the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (2000). This was the legislation which made trading in Credit Default Swaps legal and unregulated. It was added as a rider to the Omnibus Spending Bill in the fianl hours of the Clinton administration and virtually nobody knew it was included in the OSB. THe sponsor was Phil GRamm.



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OllieLotte Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:29 PM
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11. I agree with this....mostly.
It does give a pass to two other groups that were involved and people seem to give one side or another the blame and the other side a pass. The banks and loan origination people knew that these loans were risky, but they had a market for them and didn't care. The people that took out the loans knowing that they weren't likely to make the payments and they didn't care either.

I have come to one other conclusion this past month. We are in real trouble and the Obama stimulus plan isn't going to work. We are making the same mistake that the Japanese made and we will have the same results.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:13 AM
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13. I went to your link and now I have to take a shower.
It's a survivalist site that pushes neocon policies.

I also read the rest of the article that you failed to post. Only one mention of bush's involvement and it was so sweet to the bush, you have to read it for yourself:

"President Bush said recently, "The market is not functioning properly." Of course it wasn't; it was being regulated by people who were trying to force markets to do things no prudent man would or should do."

They love themselves some bush. Oh the bush was just sooo, correct, all this time and you thought bush caused this mess. Read the article and it explains how it was all the fault of you guessed it - LIBERALS.

You are a freeper. Go back to your basement.

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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:03 AM
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14. I think it a useful article. The Community Reinvestment Act was originally a good thing.
It upgraded many urban neighborhoods.

While the writer does I think place too much emphasis on the wrongs of the left and not enough on the right, he is accurate on the political involvement causing immense problems.

Some of the troublemakers--Rubin, Summers, and a host of others are now ensconced in the White House---causing further destruction.
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