Push To Stop Gay Marriage Hurting Economic Growth

[Cannikin]

(New York City) The United States is losing its technological edge over Europe because policies such as a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage has put the nation at a disadvantage in competing for creative workers, according to a new economic study from a major university.

The report, prepared for the Software Industry Center at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, says that outsourcing jobs to third world countries is not as serious a long term problem is the country's failure to attract "creative class" workers to the US.

But, America is no long attracting creative workers from abroad because it is seen as an intolerant society. He cites the lack of recognition of same-sex couples and the battle over gay marriage, and policies restricting stem cell research and the tightening of visa requirements as reasons the world's brightest are no longer seeking to come to the US to work.

In a ranking of states Florida found those with DOMA or which did not offer civil rights protections for gays at the bottom of the productivity list.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/02/022004ecStudy.htm

[JasonDeter]

1. Ya, thats the ticket. Its not the corporations going after cheap labor

America is losing its competitive edge because homosexuals can't marry! Ya, ya thats the ticket. And if you believe that I have some ocean front property in Montana!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

2. Why do you have such animosity toward gays?

:shrug:

[Frodo]

3. Why do you assume that gays are necessarily MORE

intelligent,productive,creative, whatever then heterosexuals?

:shrug:

AND why do you assume that the homosexuals who grow up here are necessarily less creative,intelligent,productive,whatever than homosexuals in other countries?

[JasonDeter]

6. I'm just amazed at the length and breadth of argument

some will go to trying to convince people! I mean come on! How can anyone buy the premise of the article?

edited to say: Sorry Frodo, this post was for RationalRose...

[mediaman007]

7. Maybe Gays aren't the issue...

the intolerance developing in this country will lead to other, perhaps more tolerant, countries having opportunities to move to the forefront in different areas.

For example, Bush* limited our country's ability to work with Stem Cells. Now about one and a half years later, South Korea seems to be moving forward in that area.

I can't speak for or against the effects of intolerance on gays. But it seems to me that the more efforts we make to put limits on our population, the more opportunities other countries have to catch and surpass us.

The fact that we were the only country that came out of World War II undamaged gave us 60 years of limited competition. We could be in for some real shots of reality in the next 25 years.

[Cannikin]

9. The gay issue is only a small part of the larger whole...

of an intollerant society.

[Frodo]

13. You can argue the morality of it, but the original post was:

"Push To Stop Gay Marriage Hurting Economic Growth"

Whether the "gay marriage" issue is right or wrong is not the point. The nations most tollerant of that point of view are doing markedly worse on "economic growth" and the nations that are MORE intollerant than we are (China?) are doing better.

"Intollerant society" is a point worth raising, but not in the context of your post since there is no factualy evidence supporting it. If people look at the current economic status around the world they would conclude exactly the opposite... that intollerance on this issue is HELPING economic growth.

That can't be what you intend people to conclude.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

14. Thanks for putting words in my mouth

I was asking Jason a question, not you. Many of his posts show a distinct homophobia. I was trying to understand why this was so.

[Frodo]

15. No offense intended. But your own words were adequate.

The theory behind the original post was patently ridiculous. I assumed that if pointing that out meant (to you) that the person was homophobic then you must agree with the theory.

I wasn't aware of any of his other posts on the subject.

[efhmc]

8. I think that both of these concepts are part and parcel of our

cultural/financial quagmire.

[Frodo]

4. False premise.

As I pointed out in #3 - What's wrong with OUR gays/lesbians?

And since just about every one of those more enlightened nations is doing measurably WORSE than we are economically (unemployment, GDP growth, inflation, whatever) what exactly is the point???

[Cannikin]

5. Who assumed anything?

:shrug:

[saltpoint]

10. Cannikin --

-- I understand the premise you introduce with your original post.

I liked the post.

Hat's off to you & bravo.

[Taeger]

11. Oh yeah ...

Like China and India are "accepting" of homosexuality.

BTW, it's possible to be creative without being queer. It's also possible to be creative without including homosexuals.

[Cannikin]

12. Nobody said anything to the contratry...

But why WOULD you exclude homosexuals?

And it seems like some replies have been knee-jerk reactions to the headline without considering the substance of the story...

"But, America is no long attracting creative workers from abroad because it is seen as an intolerant society. He cites the lack of recognition of same-sex couples and the battle over gay marriage, and policies restricting stem cell research and the tightening of visa requirements as reasons the world's brightest are no longer seeking to come to the US to work."

NOT just because gays cant marry. And Nowhere does it state that homosexuality is a requirment for creativeness.

You all realize we're required to edit articles down to four paragraphs due to copyright laws....so not everything is included in the first post.

How many clicked the link and read the whole story? Raise your hands.