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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:06 PM
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Healthcare Stocks EXPLODE Higher After Big Vote On Reform
http://www.businessinsider.com/healthcare-stock-explode-higher-after-big-vote-on-reform-2009-12

Wow, look at the spike the big healthcare stocks made the morning after the big late night "reform" vote.

The gains have moderated a bit, but it kinda tells you all you need to know, doesn't it? (via @tpcarney)

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:08 PM
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1. Weaksauce.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:20 PM
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7. No kidding.
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 03:31 PM by girl gone mad
Wall St. knows weak sauce when they see it, and this bill is indeed weak sauce that merely shifts more of the burden of health costs from the haves to the have littles, while handing us over in chains to these corrupt and useless health insurance companies.

Sigh.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 04:51 AM
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13. You just don't get it, do you?
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 05:04 AM by TheWatcher
Or maybe you just can't.

You just can't admit what's happening.

Whether it is because of fear, ignorance, or the inability to process you've been HAD.

AGAIN.

That is why, when someone informed posts something like this, you come in with your weak little attacks.

Because you CAN'T refute what's there.

All you can do is call names, mock, giggle, snicker, throw sand around, and wave your arms around REAL fast, and say it doesn't exist.

I would say the ONLY thing I agree with you on is your Signature.

Broken Clock, and all that, I suppose.

Go back to GD and cheerlead.

I know the nationals are coming up soon, and you need to practice. :)

But first you'll need to attack this post with a clever one liner or insult.

So we'll pause for station identification while you think one up.

Don't hurt yourself.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:09 PM
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2. Wall Street is really scared that this might hurt the insurers, arent they?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:14 PM
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3. Yes, indeed.
They're fleeing from this overblown regulation-loose industry whose due is finally coming.

Sigh.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:16 PM
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4. I see the DLCers are attacking this thread.
the truth hurts.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:25 PM
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8. The DLC is your bogeyman. Your collective monster under the bed.
I find it both anemic and offensive.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:19 PM
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5. I think it more likely stocks were depressed...
...during the debates because the possibility that the Democrats COULD opt for reconciliation and "medicare for all" and wiped out the viability of for profit insurance and that the rise on the cloture vote only indicates they think that worry is past. If I was a senator (say Harry Reid) and wanted to get rich I'd sell insurance stocks short and then make public rumblings about invoking reconciliation...then I'd have enough cash not to care about re-election....
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM
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9. No, they haven't been depressed.
These stocks have all been rallying since last March, it's just that over the last month or so, they've gone parabolic.
Cigna:


Wellpoint:


In the interest of bandwidth, they all look essentially the same.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:49 PM
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11. Thank you so much. This is very informative and allows
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 03:54 PM by truedelphi
Thos e of us who oppose this bill a way to point out some hard facts.

I also found telling it that the Bill resembles so closely what Hemsley (Spelling?) The Chief CEO of the large HMO had been asking his people to camapign for (They provided pre-written forms and postcards to their employees so the employees could canvass Congress with the proper Talking Points.)

This past weekend, some DU'ers stood out on a cold and frozen over lake to protest the CEO and his policies.
Read about it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7277069
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:01 AM
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14. Almost as if it were coordinated, isn't it?
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 05:06 AM by TheWatcher
This whole thing began on March 9.

Not with just the insurers, but the Banks, all of it.

One little leaked Memo from Citi's CEO, an enormous rally in the Stock markets that has lasted for nine months, and the beginning of the Propaganda Blitzkrieg from The Three Stooges (The Fed, The White House, and The Media), all in coordination, in the same week.

This has been one of the biggest, fastest growing Bubbles in HISTORY, and the only thing more spectacular than the heights it has gone is the short time in which it has occurred.

It's really too bad it isn't sustainable, is made from nothing, and is a complete and utter fraud.

Oh well, it makes all the cheerleaders feel good, so who cares how destructive the consequences will be.

After all, isn't the Junkie mentality what America has been reduced to?

It's all about feeling the high, living in the moment of the rush, not worrying or caring what will happen when the crash comes.

Until it does.

And what, just what will the doe-eyed believers do when Uncle Sugar isn't there with a fix for them this time?

Well, they'll probably just get high on whatever fake one he makes up for them.

It's worked like a charm so far!

Viva Recovery!
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM
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10. If you look at the one year chart they have been steadily rising since the debate started.
They took a big hit at the start of the recession but they have been increasing ever since the reform process began.

It only makes sense. 30 million new customers, no public competition and very little regulation.

It makes so much sense goldman sachs is getting into the health insurance business in a few weeks. I'm sure as soon as the legislation that guarantees their new business success passes.

People here way underestimate the enemy.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:11 AM
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15. Most of the American People don't even know who the enemy is, or that he even exists.
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 05:15 AM by TheWatcher
They think the economy is "Recovering."

They think everything is getting back to "Normal", and that they have been "saved" by that bald guy with the beard, and the other guy who looks like Goofy.

The cheerleaders and true believers on this Site do not even begin to paint the horrific picture that is taking shape OUTSIDE of this little corner of The Net.

At least here, there is some sort of AWARENESS, be it ill-informed or not.

Most of the voting public hasn't got the first CLUE what is going down around them.

And the NON-VOTING Public?



Underestimate the Enemy?

I think most of us here Underestimate the overall unawareness the country has that there is an enemy to fear.

Me included.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:20 PM
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6. of course they are...they've received a massive windfall, and are now a quasi federal agency
I can hear the champagne corks popping from here.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:28 AM
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16. Conspiracy Theory, Doesn't Exist, Kook Alert, Chess, Pony, Master Game With Secret Moves You Will
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 05:32 AM by TheWatcher
Never Figure Out Until The Trap Is Sprung, Unicorn, Better Than Nothing, Debbie Downer, You Just Hate Obama, He Never Said That During The Campaign, Stop Parsing Words, Out Of Context, Coincidence, You Want The Country, Economy, Presidency, Universe To Fail so you can be right, Tinfoil hat, Selective Reasoning, McCain would have been worse, there are still some really good things in the bill, at least we are winning something, why can't you just be happy we are winning, Playoffs, Shopping, Cheeseburgers, Beer, American Idol, Dancing With The Stars, Reality TV, Enabling The Republicans, What's good for The Football Team Is All That Matters, I just want to feel good so stop blowing my high, if you aren't with The Party you are Against it, if you can't just tow the line and go along with everything you are a FakeDemocratObamaHatingRepublicanEnablingDoomPants.

And All, That, JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZ. :)



There, all the cheerleading talking points in one, easy, space saving post. :)

All sarcastic wit aside, you are right.

The Oligarchs are Popping Champagne Bottles, cheering the victory of their coup.

The serfs, for the most part, are popping open bottles of cheap beer, cheerleading their own demise.

All we need is a fiddle player, and the psychotic farce will be a complete Greek Tragedy.

The Rule Of Thumb in America is THIS:

The Needs of the Many Are Outweighed By The Greeds Of The Few

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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:04 AM
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12. This tells you all you need to know about the health care bill
Who won, and who lost.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:33 AM
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17. We Lost.
Corporatism Won.

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