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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:40 AM Original message |
2006 Wind Installations Offset 43 Million Tons of CO2 |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not bad, not bad at all |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. 8000 MW of nuclear capacity is still off-line in Japan as a result of the Earthquake |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. You have me all wrong. I'm totally against nuclear power |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Glad you clarified that... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Cursed numbers! |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. I have a question about wind power and "offsetting" |
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amitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Semantics. "Offsetting" should have been "replacing". Because |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No, it doesn't eliminate the need for coal plants. That's the point. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The same is true for a new nuclear power plant |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. That's a very good point, actually. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I almost can't bear it, but I'll explain it all again... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. No - wind turbines produce electricity 65-90% of the time |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. That is a good distinction, and yet it doesn't alter my argument... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "Trip" means they go off line for any number of reasons - usually safety related |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. There are actual data for wind intermittency |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I guess that's why they are expanding their wind generating capacity to 50-75% of total by 2025 |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Actually, it's unrelated |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. That, and being next to Norway's huge hydro resources |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. offsets don't have a 'real world' |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Are you saying that... |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. when someone is given the power to print money ... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Does nobody understand my question? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I understand it, but I don't know the answer. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. that's a great question. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. Pitiful; Global investment in wind power was roughly $22 billion in 2006 n/t |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. That's a Dick Cheney amount of money! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Gee - most of the thermal energy created by nuclear power plants is dumped |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I left out the word "million" after 2500 in the nuclear case. It's "2500 million tons" |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The word "you" was used 23 times in that post - I'm impressed |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. He can read minds you know. Best not to look directly into his avatar's eyes... |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Only problem is with most of the anti-nuclearists |
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