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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:56 AM
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Global warming impact like "nuclear war": report - Reuters
Source: Reuters

Global warming impact like "nuclear war": report
Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:01AM EDT

By Jeremy Lovell

LONDON (Reuters) - Climate change could have global
security implications on a par with nuclear war unless
urgent action is taken, a report said on Wednesday.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS)
security think-tank said global warming would hit crop
yields and water availability everywhere, causing great
human suffering and leading to regional strife.

While everyone had now started to recognize the
threat posed by climate change, no one was taking
effective leadership to tackle it and no one could
tell precisely when and where it would hit hardest,
it added.

"The most recent international moves towards
combating global warming represent a recognition ...
that if the emission of greenhouse gases ... is allowed
to continue unchecked, the effects will be catastrophic
-- on the level of nuclear war," the IISS report said.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL1234809620070912
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:01 AM
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1. Thanks to Bush, we'll have both. nt
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:08 AM
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2. so if I understand things correctly, BushCheney is in a race with itself . . .
to see which form of global devastation they can bring about first . . . nice work if you can get it . . .
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:46 PM
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11. That's okay, the rapture will take care of everything!
:sarcasm:
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:28 AM
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3. Well, well. Some people are starting to figure it out.
It's about f'ing time. Well, actually it's way past time, but it's good to see some sheeple starting to wake up nonetheless.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:40 AM
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4. I've been suggesting as a first giant step that each country

pick a day of the wk. when all auto traffic is stopped.

cops, EMS, fire, etc. go on as normal.

truck delivers made by 10 a.m. and then stopped.

trains, buses, still running.

think of what won't go into the air.

also something as to be done about plane flights. less is better.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:29 AM
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5. I know it's just a thought
But to add to it; how would something like that, if possible, be enforced? More cops in more cars? A citizen patrol perhaps, with authorita? Is there a penalty for not complying? A fine? No pay for that day? The next non-car day in jail? Does each country get to pick their day? A lottery? Do weekends count? Are holidays off limits?

What about the jobs? A) the distance still required to and from. B) the type of job(if it requires that stuff be put into the air, water, and food, etc). You'd have to build more buses, even for a single day, especially for places that don't have the greatest bus service to begin with. How many more people, per train, would that be?

That might be a fun train wreck to watch actually. The one we're already in is getting old, so, lets try something new.

If I sound sarcastic, I'm not trying to. What if we just picked a day and did jack squat? No school, work, no need for the buses or trains, etc. That might be good, but what would happen? Do people still get paid? Do we pay a little more in taxes to put in a fund for Jack Squat Day?

That comes out to 52 days a year. Just under 2 months of no cars. I'd be interested in the logistics alone.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:54 AM
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6. yes, all you mention needs to be discussed, but also consider this


the cost of climate change

think of all the cars in all the floods in all the countrys this year that were lost

appliances in all of the flooded bldgs.

crops destroyed, needing a yr. to replace if lucky

food prices going up continuously

water wars

or

figuring out how to reduce, greatly, and immediately, exhaust fumes going into the air.

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:06 PM
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8. There are plenty of orthodox religions that enforce a "no go" holy day once a week.
Once we've all converted, the problem will be solved.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:03 PM
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7. can it be stopped without global governmental intervention??
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 12:06 PM by Duppers
WHERE'S OUR ENERGY POLICY? The only one I know of is to bomb the hell out of ME countries and steal their oil.

Can the volunteerism of savvy citizen be enough??? I don't think so. I think POLICIES need to be instituted immediately.

From another post of mine earlier today:
It is very significant that this admin. is not funding major alternative energy research, which is our only hope in stopping the cataclysmic climate change that will end many species and possibly our own.

Global warming and irreversible climate change threatens the very survival of future generations, of our species itself. As everyone here knows, this admin is owned by petroleum corporations and these neo-cons, the pinnacle of ignorance-as-a-life style, are in major denial about everything. Getting rich now is their ONLY goal. As their greed blinds them, they do not think in future tense about anything, not even when it concerns the future of their grandchildren.

All the other very important issues ... will be null and void if we do not URGENTLY address the issue of climate change. Future generations will have to kiss their asses good-bye IF WE do not act NOW.

But Geo. W and his cronies will not do that.



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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:09 PM
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9. Nope. It will need total world-wide governmental cooperation.
We just get them all to agree to stop all economic growth everywhere forever.

Or we wait twenty years and no agreement will be needed - it will happen on its own.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:25 PM
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10. 'economic growth' ?
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 12:26 PM by Duppers
Full employment could be considered economic growth. Ya need a better term there.

We could have a very low CO2 output with the right technology and with proper and ENFORCED laws protecting our planet's climate.

People have no idea what's coming down the pike or what they must do to stop it.

Either way, it's going to happen as you say.

You know they'll say we're just hysterical doomsday naysayers, right?


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