How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic.

[sellitman]

Need a hand with that arrogant "moran" on your block? Check out this web site. It should arm you with enough facts to bury the bum. -Enjoy, Kevin

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

[silverweb]

1. Wow, that's the mother lode!

Bookmarked for future reference and use.

Thanks! :hi:

[angrycarpenter]

2. at this point people who deny

are not rational. Argument alone will not convince them. It will take something sudden and undeniable for them to finally understand.

[greenman3610]

10. There are only a few hard core denialists,

but they have been successful in spreading uncertainty to
middle of the roaders - which is why I've added a section to
my climate talks shooting down all the "greatest hits" of
denialists. (warming on mars, medieval warming period,
the sun is doing it, etc)

Understanding the bogus claims is also a great way to extend
your own understanding of the issues.

Other great sites for this are:
http://www.skepticalscience.com
http://environment.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn11462

[GliderGuider]

3. Thanks! That's what I was looking for.

I saw it z few months ago, and lost track of it. A work colleague is pretty much there, but he still has some nagging doubts about the role of CO2 (which is kind of fundamental, right?) I was trying to find this for him. Thanks for posting it. I now have it bookmarked...

[silverweb]

4. Off topic, but...

I just love your avatar. May I ask its source?

[GliderGuider]

5. I swiped it from cafepress.com

It's from a t-shirt design, and represents pagan polyamory.

[silverweb]

6. Ah! I got the pagan part.

The polyamory part never even crossed my mind.

It is a lovely design... and not a bad concept, either. :D

[skids]

7. Simpler answer: In short sentences with as little effort as possible...

...seriously at this point climate deniers are mostly just trolls looking to waste your time. EVery once and a while you may see a real life one, but the best policy for most of them is always spend less time typing your reply than it took them to type theirs.

[stuntcat]

9. little effort as possible

one's been fighting me about this online for years (he happens to be a Bush supporter of course) and he's taught me a lot about deniers.. they've made up their little minds, for reasons that have little to do with what's actually happening. He hasn't bothered me since I said I thought he was a 'religious man' so why wouldn't he care about the home God gave us? (I think I flattered him with 'religious' and 'man' :P )

[Viking12]

8. Here's another....

Scientific skepticism is a healthy thing. Scientists should always challenge themselves to expand their knowledge, improve their understanding and refine their theories. Yet this isn't what happens in global warming skepticism. Skeptics vigorously criticise any evidence that supports anthropogenic global warming (AGW) and yet eagerly, even blindly embrace any argument, op-ed piece, blog, study or 15 year old that refutes AGW.

So this website gets skeptical about global warming skepticism. Do their arguments have any scientific basis? What does the peer reviewed scientific literature say?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

[stuntcat]

12. ooo thanks

So useful .. I wish I'd had both of these sites before, I've had a few people fighting me (me personally because I now represent the whole Earth to some mad little Gore-haters :eyes: ) about this for years, but I'm not good enough at getting this kinda stuff across in my own short sentences, or whatever. Anyway, next time I have it bookmarked.

[GliderGuider]

11. The main reason to have this stuff at your fingertips

You will never convince a denier. However, you do have a chance with normal people who have simply run afoul of the media's penchant for "balance". Many people have been exposed to the skeptics' arguments as a result of the media's attempt to balance out the consensus scientific position by giving equal time to the lunatic denialist fringe. Most such media victims have no way of sorting out the validity of the opinions, and end up thinking some of the lunatics' opinions have scientific merit. Such people are salvageable if you have the rebuttals at hand.

[Canuckistanian]

13. Thanks, that's a good resource

Pretty comprehensive.