Industrial grown hemp is the enemy of pot

[SHRED]

In fact a Marijuana grower that is growing flowers for "relaxation" would not want his/her plants anywhere near an industrial hemp field due to cross-pollination contamination.
Ya see...when the flowers get pollinated they stop growing then go to seed and hemp seed is genetically very low in THC so you have two things going wrong for the pot grower.

One: The plant stops flowering and loses it's THC content to seed production.
Two: The seed produced are junk for growing with THC as the goal.

The DEA and law enforcement argument that pot growers would "hide their plants in hemp fields" is absolutely ludicrous and needs to be called out for the mind game that it is.

http://www.votehemp.com/

We have a working industrial hemp model already established up north in Canada.
Lets follow their lead.


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[patrice]

1. Hemp is good, cheap, soil building, Food - AND -

You can build houses with it http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/12/hemp_houses_for.php

[NNadir]

2. It also makes a great toothpaste and is an outstanding structural material

for interstellar spacecraft.

I think one of the big corporate rip offs fighting hemp legalization is the Drano company. It's a tremendous drain cleaner and it works great on aluminum pipes.

The injection of hemp into Southern California's system of faults would prevent earthquakes forever and of course, prevent fleas from infesting pets in the area.

For many years, centuries in fact, hemp was a major player in the transportation industry and enabled the world to get by on renewable wind powered ships.

I also think that people are overlooking the role hemp could play in bringing a lasting and just peace to the middle east.

[patrice]

4. At minimum it could be the basis of many new small industries.

The sort of things that we need to win our Freedom back from the trans-national corporations.

[SHRED]

5. very true indeed

[NNadir]

9. Oh yeah. I forgot, besides curing cancer, hepatisis and genital warts, it can

solve all of the world's social problems. The minute hemp is legalized poverty and injustice will disappear. This is why the Burmese junta is so against hemp.

It's a wonderful pigment for paints and makes an excellent form of siding on houses.

It's not a bad source of paving material either.

I also think hemp legalization will prove an important factor in clarifying the outstanding issues surrounding Grand Unification Theories in physics.

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[lynnertic]

11. come again with the system of faults and the fleas?

I didn't quite get that part.

[appal_jack]

21. well, NNadir

I know that you're being sarcastic in the extreme, but a couple of bowl packs of sticky Bubblegum shared by various ME factions certainly couldn't hurt.

-app

[NNadir]

23. Far be it from me to invalidate different approaches to peace.

On the other hand, hashish, as I understand it - and I am decades away from any expertise on the subject - is an Arabic word meaning "assassin."

I'm not sure whether the parties to the mideast catastrophe share assassins already. It would seem that the practice is common enough to be outsourced.

[truedelphi]

3. Well the problem with what you are suggesting is that

YOU ARE MAKING SENSE.

And that will simply not be allowed into the debate.

So what if medical marijuana atrophied the cancer that Steve Cubby was suffering.
He was breaking the law.

So what if through hemp use we could spare entire forests and still produce paper, avoid costly Middle East Wars because we could use Hemp as an alternate fuel, produce clothing that would last for a long long time and help those unable to assimilate meat or soy with a fabulous protein and good tasting food.

Marijuana has no value!
And neither does Hemp! <sarcassm>

[losthills]

6. What gets me

is how we cut down forests to make paper products that could produced cheaper and better from hemp fields.

And leave the forests alone...

[SHRED]

14. wood pulp to paper is...

...a very toxic process that includes bleaching leaving behind Dioxin.

[lips]

17. DO SOME EFFING RESEARCHING!!!

Really folks, hemp is one of the most, if not the most industrial competent, usable, and sustainable raw material for virtually everything made from plastic, wood, and some conductive metals (haven't heard much about this and would like to hear more).

The reason for it's initial illegality centers around racism/America's southern border and the newspaper conglomerates Hearst used to rig the media in the early 20th century. FYI

[patrice]

7. It is ironic that Hemp is exactly what psycho-anti-marijuana bigots

should be wanting everywhere, since it denatures pot. They could always hope there'd be so much hemp growing everywhere that pot would become extinct.

[SHRED]

8. they know what they are doing

It's a game.

[stimbox]

10. Yep, the emperor has no clothes. n/t

[alittlelark]

12. Hemp would destroy the 'home grown' industry.

Unless they locked plants in basements w/ CDC Level 4 protections.


I cannot understand why the Federal Gov't would dismiss this idea!


Local marijuana producers wiped out by a hemp industy that provides all textiles,plastics, oil, Omega 3's and 6's in the diet, and makes some cool smokin' rope!

[orleans]

20. think about what you just said for a minute

"I cannot understand why the Federal Gov't would dismiss this idea"

"a hemp industy that provides all textiles,plastics, oil, Omega 3's and 6's in the diet, and makes some cool smokin' rope"

who in our government wants to tell the one textile mill left in this country, the plastics industry, the oil industry, and dupont to go to hell because we're growing hemp now.

maybe if we didn't have these corps buying our politicians things would be a lot different.

1935
Nylon is a generic designation for a family of synthetic polymers first produced on February 28, 1935 by Wallace Carothers at DuPont. Nylon is one of the most common polymers used as a fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon


In 1937 Congress passed the "1937 Marijuana Tax Act" and made marijuana illegal and highly fineable
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-19485.html

(here is a counter argument to dupont/nylon/hemp/congress
http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/hemp_conspiracy.htm
but i still believe there was more to banning marijuana than meets the eye)

[TheWraith]

22. Nope. It wasn't about chemicals or fibers.

Nylon rope is, in fact, superior to hemp rope because nylon is stronger and it can't rot. More to the point, the 1937 act did not ban hemp in the least--that's an effect of more recent enforcement laws. Hemp was still widely used in the US as late as World War II for production of fabric, canvas, and rope.

[orleans]

24. so what exactly happened that ended up banning it? do you know? n/t

[TheWraith]

25. Which, hemp or cannabis?

Cannabis was banned basically because of, well, racism. It was popular among the Evil Mexicans against whom the politicians and the newspapers railed in order to make themselves popular, and later with other undesirables like black people and musicians. Harry J. Anslinger, the nation's first drug czar, said that black people's "satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others..."

No, I'm not kidding.

Hemp was never exactly banned, but its production is heavily regulated because it's related to Cannabis/Marijuana. Completely illogically, as noted over and over in this thread, but since when have drug enforcement and logic gone together?

Hemp isn't exactly a miracle crop--its fibers aren't as good as others we can produce, and the lower THC content makes it dubious for medicinal purposes--but it does have potential applications, and in a free country you don't need a reason to make something legal, you need a reason to make it illegal.

[SHRED]

15. I just sent this to "Vote Hemp"...

...regarding the North Dakota case "Monson vs. DEA"


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Hello,

I have a point I believe has not been covered sufficiently in any legal argument favoring the legalization of industrial hemp.
Maybe it has, but not in any documents I have read.

It is a counter-argument really to the DEA and law enforcement's argument that marijuana growers will "hide their plants in hemp fields where law enforcement won't be able to distinguish them from the hemp". I have heard that law enforcement scenario brought up many times.
This is a common argument from those opposing legal hemp and can be rebutted quite effectively, I believe, with the following argument posted below.

Please, if you find this counter-argument worthy, would you pass it on to the attorneys covering this case or any other attorneys involving hemp legalization that you know of?

Thank you,
--

~~Ted aka: SHRED
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/SHRED


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The following is a "cut and paste" of a post I made to the 'Environment" forum at Democratic Underground with link included:


Industrial grown hemp is the enemy of pot

In fact a Marijuana grower that is growing flowers for "relaxation" would not want his/her plants anywhere near an industrial hemp field due to cross-pollination contamination.
Ya see...when the flowers get pollinated they stop growing then go to seed and hemp seed is genetically very low in THC so you have two things going wrong for the pot grower.

One: The plant stops flowering and loses it's THC content to seed production.
Two: The seed produced are junk for growing with THC as the goal.

The DEA and law enforcement argument that pot growers would "hide their plants in hemp fields" is absolutely ludicrous and needs to be called out for the mind game that it is.

http://www.votehemp.com /

We have a working industrial hemp model already established up north in Canada.
Lets follow their lead.


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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=118681&mesg_id=118681

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[SHRED]

16. ...and also a similar email to the attorneys handling...

...Monson vs. DEA:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/17/pip.hempregulation/index.html



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[losthills]

18. I think you should study up on this a little more.

I admire your energy, but there is a huge hole in your argument.

I'm not going to tell you what it is, because I want you to study this issue and figure it out for yourself.
peace...

[SHRED]

19. I give up...

What is it?