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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:53 PM
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LEDs "get there" for general lighting purposes.


US LED manufacturer Cree has opened up a whole new field of general lighting applications with its latest generation of XLamp power LEDs. The company describes the XR-E series as a "new class of lighting LED".

...

These are highly impressive numbers, but the most useful comparison is given by the typical values at the center of the production distribution. For the XR-E, these numbers are 80 lumens at 350 mA, with 70 lm/W. Many low-power LEDs operating at 20 mA would struggle to achieve this efficacy value.



http://www.ledsmagazine.com/news/3/10/10

Mark McClear, Cree's director of marketing for solid-state lighting, emphasized that LEDs typically producing 80 lm are already in volume production. "We've already shipped more than one-quarter million devices," he told LEDs Magazine.



In the lab, CREE has samples running about 25% more efficient than these do.

We are about one year away from the point at which LED bulbs (ones that are actually efficient and not just underpowered with deceitful advertising) will be available retail and steal the efficiency crown from compact fluorescents -- so don't worry about the mercury in them, by the time you replace them you'll be using LEDs -- it's a one-time thing and it will save more mercury from being emitted by coal plants.

Of course, the lawsuits always follow on the heels of success...




Honeywell claims it has the rights to U.S. Patent No. 6,373,188 B1 issued April 16, 2002. The patent is for an Efficient Solid-State Light Emitting Device with Excited Phosphors for Producing a Visible Light Output. The patent was assigned to Honeywell by inventors Burgess R. Johnson and Wei Yang.

Honeywell alleges that Philips infringes the patent through the manufacture, sales and distribution of lighting products incorporating light emitting diodes. The products include automobiles, emergency lighting systems, general lighting systems, commercial lighting and flashlights.

Co-defendant Cree Inc. also infringes on the patent through products that include mobile phones, automobiles, digital still cameras, outdoor displays, general lighting, outdoor lighting, aircraft lighting, traffic signal lighting, crosswalk signs, televisions and monitors.


http://www.setexasrecord.com/news/203080-recent-patentcopyright-infringement-cases-filed-in-u.s.-district-courts



Honeywell doesn't actually make mass quantities of LEDs, just precursor products. We really need a "use it or lose it" patent reform law. Fortunately cases like this usually just result in some sort of settlement with the plaintiff weighing its legal fees against the offer. (Don't count Lumileds as the clearcut victim on this, though, they've been in court lately for being sleazy in a patent suit they launched against another LED company.)

A good look at some of the players is here:

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/667253/

As the volume producers are working out the last few kinks (stability of phosphor colors over time and temperature tolerance of the junction for operation in very hot environments), the next leap, nanocrystals, is popping up on more university lab benches.





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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:57 PM
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1. I use LED's for some of my lighting... it's pretty cool
:woohoo:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:03 PM
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3. I have some too
They work out very well for my range hood cover which has two lights in it and they are left on all night. I noticed that my power bill dropped a lot being I'm not running those two bulbs for 8 hrs. a day any longer.

I also have a small night light and also have some of the ones that change colors around the house as additional night lights. I got a deal on those - four of them for >$20.00 I think it was.

I have a larger spotlight type for the garage but it is really very dim. I guess it is one of the 1st generation LED lights. I need a brighter one out there.

Apparently, they last for years. :)

:kick:

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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:00 PM
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2. I'll believe it when I see it
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 06:01 PM by Pawel K
hopefully this is the real deal. If it isn't we are only a few years away from LEDs being a practical replacement for light bulbs anyway at the rate efficiency is going up and cost is going down.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:08 PM
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4. I sure hope they are a little more pleasing to the eye than some
of the compact fluorescents. I'd love to replace the incandescent bulbs in my chandelier with compact fluorescents, but I have to say, the ones I've seen have an ugly base on them. They might be OK if it weren't for all the prominent black printing on the base.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:17 PM
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5. Photos of current gen products...
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 06:21 PM by skids
http://images.google.com/images?q=LED+light+bulbs&gbv=2&ndsp=20&svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&start=60&sa=N

...LED bulbs can look like just about anything you prefer, though -- some of the more "designer" looks:

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&q=LED+strip+light&btnG=Search+Images

(EDIT: this bulb isn't very bright or efficient, but might be long the lines of what you are looking for:



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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:40 PM
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7. Any more information on the one in your post?
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:35 PM
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6. I started using a new LED dive light this year
It cost a whole lot more than a standard incandescent dive light, but the purity and color depth I got with it were absolutely unbelieveable. I can see using them all over my house as the commercial market opens up.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:18 AM
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8. i bought some led light strings for halloween
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 02:19 AM by orleans
it must be the wiring but three strings went out and i couldn't get them to work again. really pissed me off--they were expensive and shit.

i was so thrilled to have found them and have them and what a major disappointment.

the lights were lovely. i'm assuming it wasn't the bulb itself that fucked up the strings. it was probably the strings. when someone makes a good product why do they tend to fuck up another part of it?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:29 AM
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9. Another possible marketing barrier is the spectrum.
Many people seem to be turned off by the cooler spectrum, as compared with incandescents. I've seen some christmas lights that claim warmer spectrums, but I haven't yet seen more mainstream lighting products.
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