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cedric Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:00 AM
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Six steps to getting the global ecological crisis
http://growthmadness.org/2007/10/31/six-steps-to-getting-the-global-ecological-crisis/

1) A finite earth can support only a limited number of humans

2) A population that has grown larger than the carrying capacity of its environment degrades its environment.

3) Most serious environmental problems are the result of our consumption of resources.

4) A population can only temporarily overshoot its carrying capacity.

5) Population overshoot by degrading the environment erodes its carrying capacity leading to that habitat in future being unable to support so many people in future.

6) Oil, coal and other nonrenewable resources have allowed us to exceed the earth's carrying capacity for our species. Unless alternatives are found the number of humans will be reduced.

The link provides a more in depth discussion.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:41 AM
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1. John Feeney's blog is terrific.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 11:41 AM by GliderGuider
The discussions of that article both there and on the Oil Drum were very interesting. John published a similar article at the same time on BBC's Green Room and the discussion there was both encouraging and deeply discouraging.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:06 PM
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2. If the problem is narrowly defined
as consisting of two elements, populaton growth, and the increase of atmospheric carbon, we're fucked. Action on either front would require a global consensus, which does not currently exist. We don't have 20 years to debate the issues and form a series of five-year-plans. Atmospheric carbon is close to 400 ppm and rising, unleashing forces that will not be eaily reversed. World food stocks are perilously low even as food-stuffs are being diverted to energy production. Feeney thinks that, "Fortunately, expert consensus tells us we can address population humanely by solving the social problems that fuel it". I am aware of no such "expert consensus". This seems like a dubious proposition at best, and one arrived at without consulting the Pope, or the leaders of the third world nations who would be expeced to implement the steps needed to achieve "humane" solutions to the problem. One can easily imagine the charges of racist imperialism and genocide any such effort will trigger.

We're having an epochal election in this country, and there has been no meaningful discussion of peak oil or global warming, and no mention what-so-ever of population. Before action is possible, there will need to be a massive effort to educate the public about the peril we face and the steps needed to mitigate it. But who will educate the leaders? Generally I'm as optimistic as a bird dog, but I've got a bad feeling about our current fix. We're going to do too little, too late. I'm afraid we're going to pay in blood for our fecklessness.

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:30 PM
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3. Feeney resists defining human-caused problems as insoluble
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 06:32 PM by GliderGuider
IMO he also fails to account adequately for the evolved, neuro-psychological constraints on our perceptions and decision-making. This causes him to utter involuntary, irrational expressions of optimism from time to time. I'm working with him to address that shortcoming. :-)
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