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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:09 PM
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Dumbass nuclear activists paid themselves 1 brazillion dollars out of Walmart funds in 2007.
Led by Amory Lovins, the highly paid off anti-nuke (read pro-coal) industry paid each high priest of the faith oodles of money in 2008.

Here's a photo of fundie anti-nuke Amory Lovins accepting just one installment among the payoffs from Walmart (there are no photos of payments from Rio Tinto, the Pentagon, Royal Dutch Shell, and probably 50 coal companies, but many of these payments are under the table):



http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid419.php

Here's a list of the really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really "green," whoops, I mean "greenwashed" companies who pay the high priest of the anti-nuke faith:



His clients have included Accenture, Allstate, AMD, Anglo American, Anheuser-Busch, Bank of America, Baxter, Borg-Warner, BP, Bulmer, Carrier, Chevron, CIBA-Geigy, CLSA, Coca-Cola, Corning, Dow, Equitable, GM, Hewlett-Packard, Interface, Invensys, Lockheed Martin, Mitsubishi, Monsanto, Motorola, Norsk Hydro, Prudential, Rio Tinto, Royal Ahold, Royal Dutch/Shell, Shearson Lehman Amex, STMicroelectronics, Sun Oil, Texas Instruments, UBS, Wal-Mart, Westinghouse, Xerox, major real-estate developers, and over 100 utilities.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amory_Lovins

Why I feel so "green" just listing those companies, not one of whom has a fucking thing to do with interests in dangerous fossil fuels, especially GM, BP, Chevron, Sun Oil, and that old car culture favorite, Walmart.

The major real estate developers are also very, very, very, very, very, very, very "green," with their wonderful hydrogen hypercar accessed fucking brazillion solar roof powered suburbs.

RMI has grown into a broad-based institution with more than 60 staff and an annual budget of some $8 million. I will bet that if you look into the 60 staff, 52 or more of them are economic refugees from Central America who trim the shrubs in the unwalkable parking lot.

We could, of course, discuss the highly paid off anti-nuke Putin blowing Gerhard Schroeder, or maybe "Illiterate Helen," but what what would be the point.

Most fundie cults - a fundie cult is an organization that will change it's dogma when presented with no amount of science - are about money, and the anti-nuke cult is hardly an exception.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:13 PM
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1. Your tax (Faith Based) dollars at work n/t
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:07 PM
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2. You forgot to use the word, "fucking."
It makes your ignorant diatribes sound so much more urbane.....
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 03:38 PM
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3. Don't feed 'em if you don't want 'em to come back
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:21 PM
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4. Well, it depends on your point of view on what constitutes ignorance.
To me, being against the world's largest, by far, form of climate change gas free energy, while hyping one that has never been anything more than a fantasy is pretty ignorant, fundamentalist in fact.

In general though - and this applies not only to energy but everything else - fundies get pretty cranky, mean, and self-defensively critical when you point out that all their rhetoric is fantasy.

In my view, particularly in a time of total environmental collapse, it is pretty clear that the type of ignorance I am defining kills.

There are ignorant people who are willing to bet the flesh of every man, woman, and child, every animal, every plant on the notion that a trivial form of energy that has never been significant can function. It would be one thing if there wasn't 50 years of history suggesting otherwise, but in fact, such history exists and can be expressed in pure numbers.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:40 PM
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5. Lovins is a greenwasher. That's what he does.
Are you a big company or big government agency that needs some "green" press? Call Amory Lovins. He'll put together some package so your organization can say "We care..."
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:17 PM
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6. Well Lovins doesn't do science.
I've searched the patent literature for inventions by "Mr. Hydrogen Hypercar."

Zero.

One would think, with all the hypercar hype, the solar hype, the other bullshit "Exxon is my client" crappola that the guy would have invented at least one thing. But he hasn't. Zero. Zilch.

Neither does he describe any laboratory work of any kind in any forum, including the drivel that drips off his website.

If someone would like to cite an article by him that's in a peer reviewed scientific journal, I'd love to see it.

He has published zero articles in Environ. Sci. Tech. or any other journal of the American Chemical Society.

http://pubs.acs.org/wls/journals/query/query.html?op=refresh&sortSpec=date&docsCount=10&x=13&y=8

He makes a big deal out of defining himself as a "physicist" who went to Harvard and Oxford, but if you check around and look into the matter, it turns out that all he did at either institution was to drop out of each of them.

He was involved with zero major energy based research projects at either institution.

Basically his entire schtick involves selling shit to the credulous owners of outhouses.

The anti-nuke cult - were they not doing so much damage to humanity and to the ecosphere - would be slightly amusing for their abject credulity.

But, in times as dire as these, the anti-nuke is merely a pernicious cancer that now has moved the situation from "possibly treatable" to almost certainly "fatal."

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