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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:00 PM
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'Stop Stop Stop' sealer screams to coast guard as boat capsizes and sinks
Source: Canadian Press

HALIFAX — Wayne Dickson's voice rises to a blood-curdling crescendo as he recounts the moment before he realized his friend's sealing vessel, under tow behind a coast guard icebreaker, capsized in a treacherous icefield north of Cape Breton.

"Stop the f**king boat! Stop! Stop! Stop! You're going to kill them f**king guys - their boat's upside down!" he shouted during an emotional interview Monday, recalling his urgent message to the light icebreaker Sir William Alexander.

"They were still dragging the boat through the water. But there was no response."

Dickson was at the helm of his own fishing boat Saturday, trailing behind the L'Acadien II as it was being pulled through the darkness toward Sydney, N.S.

Ninety minutes earlier, the captain of the L'Acadien II, based in Iles-de-la-Madeleine, had called for a tow after the boat's rudder was damaged by the unusually thick ice.






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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:01 PM
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1. Sad, but not as sad as some celebrating the death.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:18 PM
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2. These guys were killing seals and we're supposed to be sad?
I'm not.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:55 PM
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3. Yeah, seals are much more important than people.
:eyes:
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:15 AM
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4. I'm sad when anything dies.
That's just me, though.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:31 AM
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5. Aw come on. Seriously?
I'll try to be polite. Yes, seals are more important than people, if you look at it from the point of view of a momma seal or a polar bear that feeds on seals. These humans don't hunt them for food, they hunt for their fur. They don't eat them so they can survive. They just brutally torture them to death so they can make money from coat makers.

You're sad when anything dies? You must be sad every day all day. Stop brushing your teeth! You'll kill bacteria! Stop eating! That salad you ate had to die for you to survive. Things die all the time, it just depends on whether the suffering the creatures endure is minimal and necessary to someone's survival.

Killing seals for fur is the same as whaling, killing dolphins, gorillas, or elephants or whatever just to make some asshole rich. It's disgusting. Those people on that ship knew the dangers involved and took the risk because they are greedy and selfish.

I am not celebrating their death, but I hope some wildlife will benefit from their cadavers deep in the ocean.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:20 AM
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6. What is more Important ? 9 billion Humans ( parasites)
Or 10 thousand seals, under attack by parasites. I could tell you some sad tales about seal butchering.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:38 AM
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9. Who wants to hear tales from a parasite? nt
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:07 AM
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7. Disregard for human life?
The cadavers comment is particularly offensive and shows a disregard for human life and suffering of others. Responding to the untimely accidental deaths of hunters (or rapacious businessmen?) in such a hateful way, can't imagine the response mass human murdering war profiteers deserve. Anyway, insensitive remarks and I feel worse for having read them.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:45 AM
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10. Of course I am insensitive to their deaths. I don't care!
They mutilate defenseless baby seals with clubs! Who are you? Being a Democrat or a liberal does not mean defending murderous seal fur traders. How is their death any worse than the thousands of seals they has maliciously murdered? It's not! It's better. They are the cowards here. They are the selfish killers. I'm done. If you can't get that go away.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:58 AM
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11. Being humane means you hate what they do but don't celebrate their deaths.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:56 AM
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17. And you wonder why the Republicans have so much ammo to use against progressives.
It is sick comments like this that build their numbers and give them reason to continue their activities that destroy the planet.

The bullcrap fantasy about seals and whales needs to end. If you are happy a person is fucking DEAD because it means maybe one or two seals wont die then you obviously have little concern for human suffering in my view.

I want everyone to take note of this. THIS is what Rush talks about what other conservative talk shows talk about. This is giving reason to say screw it and leave the environmental movement and go back to one's Xbox.

Frankly you not only anger me with your disregard for human life in my view. You scare me. For how do I know you wont find reason to do harm to another human by your own hands?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:48 AM
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16. DUlover2909, You are a sick person in my view.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 09:49 AM by Zachstar
People like you destroy my faith in humanity.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:05 PM
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19. I agree with DUlover2909, so I guess
I'm another person who destroys your faith in humanity.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 02:20 PM
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20. fact is, the world despises these fishermen and their tactics
so it shouldn't come as a surprise that alot of us aren't exactly grieving over their deaths.
That said, I have great reverence for life which is why I am doing my level best to stop the seal hunt so I do feel for their families who are now left without a breadwinner. Hate the sin, not the sinner and all that.
Being a fisherman is a very dangerous business, especially in the Northern Hemisphere. Yet, they are all highly subsidized by the Canadian government who actually loses money on these hunts from what I've recently read.

Remembering last year's hunt, when nearly 100 boats got stuck in ice for a couple of weeks, nobody felt very sad about that either. Still, I'd never have wished harm to any of them. I just want the bloody hunt stopped THIS YEAR!

Boycott Canadian Seafood. Find out how at the link.

http://www.harpseals.org/boycott/index.html
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:17 AM
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8. Shit happens. nt
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:05 AM
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12. Heh... dangers involved in killing baby seals... sorry for them... Im unmoved though.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 03:34 AM by rAVES
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EvilAL Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:05 AM
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13. Can't we all just get along?
lol

I'll start eating only fruits and vegetables, nuts, grains and whatever else doesn't scream(which people are against), wearing only hemp(which people are against), or synthetic stuff(which people are against). I'll walk to work with cotton slippers, wearing winter clothing made from the random furs from the roadkill carcasses I find or ride a bicycle with no oil on the chain, rubber in the tires or plastic on the seat with a frame made of recycled aluminum beer cans from beer I have drank.

I still won't be mad at the guys clubbing seals and I'll feel bad for what happened to them.
If these had been any other people out working and they got killed on the job, basically by the fuckin coast guard because they didnt stop, everyone would be all in the coast guard's face. Instead we get, "fuck them, they were clubbing seals." I could do everything I said in the paragraph above(which I'm against) and still not be able to take that mindset of animals over humans.
It's simple, eat what you want, do what you want, wear what you want, hunt what you want, fish what you want, screw who you want, work where you want, love who/what you want, hate who/what you want. Be expected for someone not to like it though because they don't like/want the exact same thing.

So I just disregard it all until someone has to fucking say something like "good for them", when people drown being towed by the coast guard or get mauled at a zoo.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:32 AM
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14. The CCG is going to turn themselves inside out over this
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 08:36 AM by GliderGuider
Their mandate and commitment is to provide the highest possible level of service to the Canadian maritime community, especially when it comes to SOLAS (Safety of Life at Sea). They pride themselves on doing this without regard to the personal circumstances of the members of the public they interact with. In other words, pleasure boaters, merchant seamen, cigarette smugglers and sealers are all eligible to receive the highest standards of service when it comes to ensuring their personal safety.

Of course CCG personnel are only human, and as such are prone to the same lapses that plague the rest of us. I have no doubt that the various Boards of Inquiry that will examine this incident over the next few months will recommend changes to CCG procedures and policy. If disciplinary action is warranted, I have enough respect for the Coast Guard's integrity to expect them to carry through with it.

The comments on this thread and elsewhere about the men deserving to die are beneath contempt. The fact that they were engaged in an activity that many of us find odious is no excuse whatever for such despicable, sub-human commentary. Such statements can only damage the soul of the person expressing them.

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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:43 AM
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15. Bravo Zulu
:yourock:
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 03:44 PM
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18. Agreed.
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