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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:14 AM
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Yellowstone Wolf Killing Begins
yes, it is a fund raising email, but it is all I have to report.

The killing in the Greater Yellowstone region has already begun.

One of the first victims: Wolf 253M -- a celebrity wolf, affectionately known as “Limpy.”



Help us stop the senseless killing of Greater Yellowstone wolves now. Please make a tax-deductible contribution today.

Limpy was many things to many people -- to wolf-watchers, he was the hobbling member of Yellowstone’s famous Druid Peak Pack. To Utahans, he was the first wolf to be seen in the state for more than 70 years.

But wolf 253M’s celebrity didn’t save him in the end. Limpy and two other wolves were shot dead in an elk feeding ground, part of Wyoming’s brutal shoot-on-sight policy that covers virtually the entire state.

The killing has already begun. Please donate now to support our work to save wolves in the Greater Yellowstone area.

Limpy’s death was just the beginning. It’s been 26 days since wolves were stripped of federal protections in the Greater Yellowstone area -- and at least 17 wolves have already been killed in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. And there are surely more to come.

Officials in Idaho changed their state law on the day wolves were delisted, making it far easier for anyone to kill wolves near livestock or domestic animals.

In Wyoming, state officials stripped all protection from wolves in 88% of the state. Locals have organized weekend eradication “wolf hunts” to kill any wolf that they find. One group tracked a wolf for 35 miles on snowmobiles before shooting it dead.<1>


You contribution will help us…
Fight for our wolves in court;
Confront flawed state wolf policies with science and common sense;
Help ranchers reduce conflicts with wolves using non-lethal methods;
Debunk the myths and misinformation about wolves through on-the-ground education and outreach; and
Much, much more...
Will you make a tax-deductible emergency donation right now to help?

We can win the battle to save our wolves. But we can’t do it without your help.

Sincerely,

Rodger Schlickeisen
President
Defenders of Wildlife

http://action.defenders.org/site/R?i=SR1CJgtO-6UK5OeKbQMoSA.">Help us stop the senseless killing of Greater Yellowstone wolves now. Please make a tax-deductible contribution today.



http://action.defenders.org/site/PageServer?pagename=savewolves_homepage">Here is Defenders of Wildlife's wolf conservation page:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:16 AM
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1. I truly think that this venomous administration is seeking to destroy all human and animal life.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:16 AM by alyce douglas
:grr:
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:24 AM
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2. I hope you're posting this in many other forums too
I've just donated again yesterday.

Thanks for posting.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:24 AM
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3. Senseless is correct. Why do we
spend money for years trying to repopulate certain species and then when they become too prolific we have to begin killing them? Is this nation bi-polar? Would it be cheaper to round up the lady wolves, spay them and maintain the status quo and allow them to die of old age? After thousands of years humans really haven't learned a damn thing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:33 AM
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:59 AM
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5. Don't vacation in WY or ID, don't buy their products e.g. Idaho potatoes
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:27 AM
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6. This whole thing... destroy all the wildlife because it interfers with somebody's 'profit', makes me
ill. I hate everything this mis-administration has done. I can't think of a single thing that it's done that has been of benefit to another living creature except lining the pockets of evil men.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:48 AM
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7. Thanks for posting this....as a regular contributor to Defenders I was surprised..
...that Eartjustice.org actually got to me first about this tragedy..

I gave them money too....

There will be legal action seeking an injunction to stop this murdering administration from slaughtering these animals inititated very soon...

Please give to either Defenders of Wildlife or EarthJustice (or like me both!) to help them stop the killing...
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zeaper Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:29 AM
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8. Just the Facts Please
I live in Wyoming; this article is a bit short on facts and rich in alarmism.

Here are some facts (I know facts don’t matter much on this board but here they are anyway):

95% of the wolves in Wyoming live in the northwest corner of the state (Yellowstone National Park), they are protected in this corner-that means no killing there.

So 12% of Wyoming has 95% of all the wolfs. The rest of the state has people who want to protect their property. That is why wolves are being killed there, to protect live stock.

Would you consider killing a predator before or after it killed your cat and your dog?

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:00 PM
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9. The killing is to meet the whims of the visiting game hunters who are not even Wyomans
http://action.defenders.org/site/PageServer?pagename=savewolves_learnmore
...the Idaho Department of Fish and Game announced its proposal to kill up to 75 percent of the wolves within the Clearwater National Forest's Lolo district, due to unsubstantiated concerns that wolves were causing unacceptable impacts to elk populations there.


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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:07 PM
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10. If I knew I lived in wolf territory...
I'd probably keep my cat and dog inside the house, where pets belong. Problem solved.
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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:42 PM
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17. I agree. Keep the cats and dogs inside.
I'm so tired of people killing animals when we (humans) have moved into their territory. I live in Wyoming, too, and this senseless slaughter makes me sick.

We used to have antelope in our neighborhood, but now they are gone, since all the new homes have been built on the prairie. The prairie dogs are so crowded, I can hardly believe how many live in such a small space. They have been pushed right next to the highway, and drivers purposefully swerve to run them down. Now the new homeowners are worried about catching diseases from the prairie dogs, so they want to kill them, too. Maybe they should have thought about that before they moved onto the prairie!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:01 PM
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11. When was the last time a WY wolf attacked a cat or dog?
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 02:27 PM by truebrit71
Do you have the facts for that?

Also, please provide the facts as to the number of livestock that the Druids (the pack to which the dead wolf lived with) have killed.

You are aware i'm sure, as you like facts so much, that Defenders and other organisations reimburse ranchers that lose livestock to verified wolf kills.

The reason this protection was lifted was so that men with high-powered rifles and very fragile egos could kill wolves and final get hard.

There is NO sound economic reason to start this slaughter. With ranchers being compensated for losses, and visitors to Yellowstone brought in an additional $35 million just to see the wolves, exactly WHERE is the economic issue here?

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zeaper Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:15 PM
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12. RE: When was the last time a wolf attacked a cat or dog?
"Do you have the facts for that?"

Last one I heard of was in September of 2007, since it happens
quite often it’s probably happened since, I just have not
heard about it.

"You are aware i'm sure, as you like facts so much, that
Defenders and other organisations reimburse ranchers that lose
livestock to verified wolf kills."

Since they started shooting them (legally) Defenders (they
were the only group)have stopped their PR reimbursement
program.  BWT they only reimbursed for livestock not for
fluffy or sniffles (you are SOL if that wolf eats your pet).

Sorry I can’t respond to the rest of your rant.  But if you
love wolves please come on out and get some, you can legally
trap or hunt them in most of the state.  I suggest you live
trap a few for your mother-in-law, she will love them.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:29 PM
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13. Do you have links for the cats and dogs kills?
Was it a verified wolf kill?

Why weren't the stupid cats and dogs inside?

The deal was 'no shooting the wolves - we pay you for your losses'. If they start shooting the wolves why should Defenders pay them for the losses?

I'd LOVE to have wolves out here...it would help control the Coyote problem (yet another benefit of having Wolves around).

Not sure my MIL would like the wolves though, they eat dogs where she comes from...
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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 05:53 PM
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18. Pet or livestock?
Last September, that is? A farm cat that had never been in the house or some beloved housepet that the owner left outside to fend for itself? People do the same stupid stuff in the Black Hills, then when a cougar eats the dog or cat, demand that the cougar be killed and the hunting season expanded. All preventable, of course, with a little personal responsibility that seems to be in as short a supply in Wyoming as it is in South Dakota.

As far as livestock go, when ranchers stop bitching about wildlife or the government cutting into their profits, then I'll start worrying. Far cry from their tough, independent ancestors that actually made a living alongside wolves and grizzlies and cougars and prairie dogs, all without grazing subsidies and aid programs.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:22 PM
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14. Another of the 999 reason not to eat beef
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:35 PM
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23. Some ranchers are accomodating to the wolf-preservation vision
Or so I read several months ago when following a chain of internet urls on this subject. I was so pumped and adamant on the issue of western lands preservation that I quit eating beef a decade ago.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:16 AM
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22. That's a bit rich from a zombie ...
> (I know facts don’t matter much on this board but here they are anyway)

:eyes:

> Would you consider killing a predator before or after it killed your
> cat and your dog?

Wolves know how to unlock doors at night?
:wow:

I think the dog is safe but I think I might just go and lock up
my billy-goat ...
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:30 PM
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15. Pfff
I think I need to find a way to leave the human race. I don't have much in common with most of them.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:42 PM
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16. got the email and it made me sad coz I'm headed out there to see the bears and wolves....
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:19 PM
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19. ...
... In those days we had never heard of passing up a chance to kill a wolf. In a second we were pumping lead into the pack, but with more excitement than accuracy; how to aim a steep downhill shot is always confusing. When our rifles were empty, the old wolf was down, and a pup was dragging a leg into impassable side-rocks.

We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes—something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters' paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.


Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:48 AM
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21. I wish I could give your response a rec, thanks for this. nt
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:39 PM
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24. I found my "Earth religion" in that verse ... eom
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 03:31 AM
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20. the American approach to solving problems = kill something (or somone) . . . n/t
.
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