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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:19 PM Original message |
Poll question: Nuclear Power: Good, Bad, Ugly? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. How about a state can built a nuke plant but they have to keep their waste |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I'm cool with that--and that's the way it is right now. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. while we wait to find more permanent solutions? |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Re: disposal. And, Integral Fast Reactors create less waste. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. It comes down to cost |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. very similar to molten salt reactor: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
90. They're the safest, cleanest, most carbon-friendly form of energy |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. France has many nuclear plants -- what do they do with the waste? |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Some of it is buried in abandoned mines. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. While not perfect, it's a lot better than the alternative, which is coal. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. We need to stop doing stupid things because they are profitable to SOME people |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'm with you, especially on solar. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Wind and Solar power development are heavily subsidized |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. The last part is my gripe |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Solar can largely be decentralized. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. That solar film ... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Down to $1/watt soon, maybe. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. If coal prices continue to rise then by 2010 it is quite possible that Solar will beat coal |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. The trouble with comparing solar to coal: |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Many solar cells are produced in China. And by nasty methods. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Ethanol, Uggghhh. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. Coal is the real radioactive threat |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I'd rec your response if I could. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Thanks! |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Your poll is going to have biased results |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Very small sample size, results are still interesting if not representative |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. It's called a "Push Poll." It's a form of propaganda. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Wrong. DU members are smarter than that. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. On the contrary |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Naïve? Some are downright dumb... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Deleted message |
losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
48. You are all too transparent. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 05:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Only to you losthills as you are likely angry that the vast majority of DUers can think. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:22 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Interesting that you should raise that poll... |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. A couple of things |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. edit |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Please edit your post it is full of flamebait. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
59. As the author of the post |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Not meant at you |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. "Why is that, do you think?" |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Reality check |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Nobody doesn't love renewable energy. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. "Nobody doesn't love renewable energy." |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Ya got me! Hi back at ya! nt |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
70. He'll find out. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Right you are! |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. "Was it me or did it get "nutty" in here?" |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
87. Your reality check has bounced. (Well, *ours* -- collectively -- has). |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. What horse shit |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Well, I tried "reasonable". |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
18. Here's what we *should* do |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. Your question is stupid and propagandistic in nature. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Your observation is presumptuous and reactionary. Why the anger? Gee! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Deleted message |
Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 05:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. AMEN!!! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I'll just put you down for answer #1, then. Thank you for participating. nt |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 05:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. losthills up to this point the topic was going pretty smoothly. Leave it up to you to try to derail |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. Get more reactors online. Lets get through this transition period |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. No, get more windmills online |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Has wind stopped the growth of coal? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Do you know anything about the grid??? |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Kris I grow tired of your crap.. Shall I just add you to ignore and be done with it? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Your complaint reminds me of a story about Truman |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Wind may have taken down coal a notch or two |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. May is one thing Has is another. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I meant domestically. China and India are a whole different problem. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The Grid...Peak Demand...visual graphic here for California |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. That is why I support solar and wind for small communities. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. This post proves you don't understand the grid - at all. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I know plenty about the grid thank you. However, I have No will to continue listening to your crap |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Running with your tail between your legs. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. The Grid is our friend. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Thank you. nt |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Of course I mean batteries as well. |
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oldhippie (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Oh Lordy! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It's actually hamsters in squirrel cage generators. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Then educate us oh wise one. |
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oldhippie (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Get a Book ........ |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. They don't. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. You can find information on energy mix by state at this link |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Thanks, kristopher! n/t |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I think you want 'grid neutrality', not 'off the grid'. |
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oldhippie (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Do you think it's a good idea ...... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I see no benefit to leaving the grid. |
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oldhippie (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Totally agree ..... |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. Ugly, dirty and too expensive to the point of undoability. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Unlike dangerous fossil fuels, eh? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
84. OTHER |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Thanks for your "OTHER" response. |
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