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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:15 AM
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Top 10 reasons to blame Democrats for soaring gasoline prices - rebuttal
OK, this one is getting widely circulated by right-wing bloggers and forum spammers (probably coming to email spam soon):

"Top 10 reasons to blame Democrats for soaring gasoline prices" by William Tate
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/top_10_reasons_to_blame_democr_1.html

Oh, and they're eating it up (without reading it very carefully)
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Let the debunking begin - feel free to add and refine.
(If you're short on reading time, just skip to #2 - it's high entertainment!)

10) Democratic opposition to ANWR

Claim: If we could get 1 million barrels a day from ANWR, it would reduce the price of oil by 50 cents a gallon immediately.

Reality Check: According to a more recent analysis the Dept of Energy, even if ANWR would have very little impact on gasoline prices:

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/2008/05/23/arctic-drilling-wouldnt-cool-high-oil-prices.html

"But the U.S. Energy Information Administration, an independent statistical agency within the Department of Energy, concluded that new oil from ANWR would lower the world price of oil by no more than $1.44 per barrel—and possibly have as little effect as 41 cents per barrel—and would have its largest impact nearly 20 years from now if Congress voted to open the refuge today. "

(note that's 41 cents per barrel of oil, not gallon of gasoline)

"EIA said its projection is that ANWR oil production would amount to 0.4 percent to 1.2 percent of total world oil consumption in 2030. The figure is low enough that OPEC could neutralize any price impact by decreasing supplies to match the additional production from Alaska, EIA noted."


9) Coastal Drilling - Democrats have consistently fought efforts to drill off the U.S. coast,
Tate fails to mention that there was also substantial Republican Opposition to offshore drilling - when it's their coast.

- The moratorium that Clinton signed - was an EXtension of a ban enacted by George H.W> Bush in 1990:
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/science/9806/12/offshore.drilling.pm/

- George W. Bush and his brother Gov. Jeb Bush, also opposed drilling off the coast of Florda:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30379-2002May29?language=printer

- Republican California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger also opposed coastal drilling in California.

Tate then mentions that "the Chinese now slant drilling for oil just 50 miles off the Florida coast" and links to this article (which he apparently di not bother to read):
http://www.bradenton.com/local/story/670525.html

Here are some of the portion that he neglects to mention:

"Yet no one can prove the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR."

"China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight"

"China's Sinopec oil company does have an agreement with the Cuban government, but it's to develop onshore resources west of Havana, Pinon said. The Chinese have done some seismic testing, he said, but no drilling, and nothing offshore."

There's more - but I can't post the whole article.

Tate make no effort to quantify the price impact of fully exploiting offshore oil drilling and no attempt to evaluate the well known risks that even frighten the most conservative Republicans - when it's their beaches. And after Katrina, some wing-nuts still think offshore drilling is a good idea?

8) Insistence on alternative fuels One of the first acts of the new Democrat-controlled congress in 2007 was an energy bill that "calls for a huge increase in the use of ethanol as a motor fuel and requires new appliance efficiency standards." By focusing on alternative fuels such as ethanol, and not more drilling, Democrats have added to the cost of food, worsening starvation problems around the word and increasing inflationary pressures in the U.S., including prices at the pump.

As a source, Tate links to this article (again either not reading it, or assuming that his readers won't):

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/18/america/Congress-Energy-Optional.php

Here are some of the parts that he missed - I will highlight the part of the sentence that Tate edited out:

"The energy bill, which also calls for a huge increase in the use of ethanol as a motor fuel and requires new appliance efficiency standards, was approved by the House 314-100 after clearing the Senate last week, 86-8."
Can you guess why he cut off the rest of that sentence? Now, I would like to think the Democrats had a 86-8 edge in the Senate and 314-100 edge in the House, but it sure looks to me like a lot of Republicans supported this bill.

Can you also guess why he left out this part?:
"After the Senate approved the legislation last week, the White House immediately said Bush would sign it once it reaches his desk."

He sure didn't want to quote this paragraph:
"Democrats said the fuel economy requirements — when the fleet of gas-miser vehicles are widely on the road — eventually will save motorists $700 to $1,000 a year in fuel costs. They maintain the overall bill, including more ethanol use and various efficiency requirements and incentives, will reduce U.S. oil demand by 4 million barrels a day by 2030, more than twice the daily imports from the volatile Persian Gulf."

Regarding corn ethanol and food prices, he ignores this portion of the article he used:
"The bill requires a massive increase in the production of ethanol for motor fuels, outlining a ramp-up of ethanol use from the roughly 6 billion gallons this year to 36 billion gallons by 2022. After 2015, the emphasis would be on expanded use of cellulosic ethanol, made from such feedstock as switchgrass and wood chips, with two thirds of the ethanol — 21 billion gallons a year — from such non-corn sources."

He quotes a seperate article for the ethanol- food price connection:
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?ch=specialsections&sc=biofuels&id=18173&a=

And again leaves out a critical line:
"Adding to the worries about corn-related food prices is President Bush's ambitious goal, announced in his last State of the Union address, that the United States will produce 35 billion gallons of ethanol by 2017"
It's a George W. Bush plan - yet Democrats are to blame???

Above all, Tate does not even try to explain why alternative fuels and more efficient cars are responsible for $4+ gasoline.

7) Nuclear power - Tate notes that:

"The last nuclear reactor built in the United States, according to the US Dept of Energy, was the "River Bend" plant in Louisiana. Its construction began in March of 1977."

and adds: "Need I say more?"

Uh, yeah. Like maybe some analysis as to WHY no new plants have been constructed, what it would cost, who would pay for the insurance , where the waste would be stored, or how much oil could be saved if we had?

6) Coal - Let's just ignore environmental costs - they're hidden!

And where in any of his sources does Tate show Democratic opposition to coal liquefaction projects?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/09/AR2007010901503.html
"The coal industry praises Obama's reintroduction, with Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.), of the Coal-to-Liquid Fuel Promotion Act of 2007 last week, which would provide incentives for research and plant construction. The industry says the technology, which converts coal into diesel engine fuel, would reduce America's dependence on foreign oil through a new, home-mined fuel that burns as cleanly as gasoline."

5) Refinery capacity

Most of the price increases we are seeing are directly connected to the price of crude oil. Oil was $28 a barrel in November 2000, now it's close to $140 (June 16, 2008).

When A right-winger tells me that no new refineries have been added in the past 30 years, I ask them if they think the U.S. population is the same as it was in 1959 - the last year that we added a state.


http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuclear/electricity/Oil_and_Gas/articles.cfm?ID=11829
"Environmental regulations are not preventing new refineries from being built in the U.S. From 1975 to 2000, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) received only one permit request for a new refinery. And in March, EPA approved Arizona Clean Fuels’ application for an air permit for a proposed refinery in Arizona. In addition, oil companies are regularly applying for – and receiving – permits to modify and expand their existing refineries."

"Oil companies have exploited their strong market position to intentionally restrict refining capacity by driving smaller, independent refiners out of business. A congressional investigation uncovered internal memos written by the major oil companies operating in the U.S. discussing their successful strategies to maximize profits by forcing independent refineries out of business, resulting in tighter refinery capacity. From 1995-2002, 97% of the more than 920,000 barrels of oil per day of capacity that have been shut down were owned and operated by smaller, independent refiners. Were this capacity to be in operation today, refiners could use it to better meet today’s reformulated gasoline blend needs."

Then ask them to get specific - what did the Republicans do about this "Problem" during the 6 years that they controlled all 3 branches of government?

4) Reduced competition - "With consolidation in the oil industry, has come reduced competition. Remember, most of the major oil company mergers -- Shell-Texaco, BP-Amoco, Exxon-Mobil, BP-ARCO, and Chevron-Texaco -- happened on Clinton's watch. The number of oil refiners dropped from 28 to 19 companies during Clinton's two terms."

Now here we go, I really expect that Republican Conservatives are going to get behind the idea of breaking up the oil companies! Anybody in the DOJ who wants to suggest some anti-trust action is going to get their head mounted in Cheney's bunker.

Note that the chart used as a source by Tate shows that the consolidation continued into the Bush Administration (down to 13 by 2006 I think). Not that he thinks his readers will actually look at it.



3) The Global Warming Myth

I could post pages and pages about this brand of anti-science idiocy. But the sources that he quotes do not quantify any connection to the current jump in oil prices and carbon limits since cap and limit legislation has not been passed. As for the future, here's the part of his link his readers are supposed to miss:
http://blog.riskmetrics.com/2008/03/carbon_trading_exchanges_new_p.html
"After Sen. John McCain emerged as the Republican candidate for president on the Feb. 5 “Super Tuesday” primary, the price of carbon dioxide traded on the Chicago Climate Exchange jumped from $2.70 for $4.50 per ton."

2) Speculation - I think this one is my favorite
Tate writes:
"Given the unchanged equilibrium in global oil supply and demand over recent months amid the explosive rise in oil futures prices ... it is more likely that as much as 60% of the today oil price is pure speculation,"

OK - so according to Tate and his source the other nine reasons Tate has given turn out to be B.S. or at least 60% of it.

Tate continues:
"The trading of energy commodities by large firms on OTC electronic exchanges was exempted from (federal) oversight by a provision inserted at the behest of Enron and other large energy traders into the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000." The bill was signed into law by Bill Clinton, in one of his last acts in office."

Fair enough - now here is where this gets hilarious! Tate's source is this Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000
"The CFMA has received criticism for the so-called "Enron Loophole," 7 U.S.C. §2(h)(3) and (g), which exempts most over-the-counter energy trades and trading on electronic energy commodity markets. The "loophole" was drafted by Enron Lobbyists working with senator Phil Gramm <1> seeking a deregulated atmosphere for their new experiment, "Enron On-line"."

Tate left out the part about the loophole being drafted by Enron lobbyists working with REPUBLICAN Senator Phil Gramm (and later McCain advisor)

What is the Wikipedia source for that entry? ... A DAVID CORN ARTICLE in MOTHER JONES!:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

I'll bet he never bothered to look at the footnote.

Here's my favorite part:

"President Bill Clinton and the Republican-controlled Congress were locked in a budget showdown. It was the perfect moment for a wily senator to game the system. As Congress and the White House were hurriedly hammering out a $384-billion omnibus spending bill, Gramm slipped in a 262-page measure called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. Written with the help of financial industry lobbyists and cosponsored by Senator Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the chairman of the agriculture committee, the measure had been considered dead—even by Gramm. Few lawmakers had either the opportunity or inclination to read the version of the bill Gramm inserted. "Nobody in either chamber had any knowledge of what was going on or what was in it," says a congressional aide familiar with the bill's history.

If you post nothing else in rebuttal - make sure you inlcude this and make sure to emphasize that THIS is Tate's argument and HIS actual source. I'll bet that he changes the article to delete/replace reason #2 though.

1) Defeat of President Bush's 2001 energy package

Tate quoting the NY Times:
"Mr. Bush's plea for a new dialogue came as his administration published the report of an energy task force containing scores of specific proposals... for finding new sources of power and encouraging a range of new energy technologies."

Now, would that be the Cheney's "Energy Task Force"? The one that is super secret that the public is not allowed to know who was in it or what was said?

"The article went on to quote some rather prescient words from the President, "this great country could face a darker future, a future that is, unfortunately, being previewed in rising prices at the gas pump and rolling blackouts in the great state of California" if his plan was not adopted in 2001."

Blackouts? in California? Now how could that happen again? See also #2
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/02/eveningnews/main620795.shtml

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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:03 AM
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1. It would be very helpful to post this to the Debunking Forum.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:04 AM
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7. Posted a link to this thread there - nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:25 AM
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2. Rec'd and bookmarking-thank you! I'm sure someone will send
that e-mail, now I'm prepared! :thumbsup:
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summer borealis Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:27 AM
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3. 7) nuclear power?
Yeah, that would really start my Subaru in the morning. Another fool's argument.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:39 AM
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10. Unless they want to advocate electric cars
Which would sort of undermine Tate's argument(?) again alternative fuels.

I'd have do some research, but I think that oil is only used for about 2% of electrical generation and that has been declining.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:46 AM
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4. What about Gay Marriage?
I thought all our current problems were a result of God being mad at the GOP for not making gayness illegal once and for all. Doesn't the flooding in Iowa prove that?
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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:16 AM
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5. I'm still going to blame #2 on democrats
because they've had a majority for quite some time now and haven't done shit about it, nor do they seem to be seriously trying to do anything about it now.
Also, not reading a bill is no excuse for letting it pass.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:25 AM
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9. I think by that point
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 10:33 AM by ThoughtCriminal
They're going to wish they had cut and pasted a different article.

- They have to admit that the problem can be solved with MORE regulation.
- They have to admit that the legislation was passed by the Republican Congress.
- They have to admit that the problem was caused by a loophole created by a Republican who also happens to be John McCain's economic advisor.

As for what Democrats are doing about it:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/08/news/economy/senate_gas_prices/index.htm
<snip>
"A major contributor is the rise in speculation," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich, who estimated that speculation has added about $35 to a barrel of oil. "This is not a supply and demand issue."

Levin said the solution can be found in closing the loopholes that allow electronic traders to buy oil outside of the United States. Levin noted that the "Enron loophole" will be ended if President Bush signs legislation that Congress passed as part of the proposed Farm Bill.
</snip>

OK, so they can go ahead and blame Bill Clinton for not stopping a Republican idea. Doesn't do much for an argument that tries to blame the whole mess on Democrats.


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Edit - Follow up

Bush did veto bill that repealed the Enron loophole (no surprise), but Congress did overide it.

http://www.mwe.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/publications.nldetail/object_id/83dc0e01-bdd3-4161-bac0-aeab8d282c84.cfm

So, if you do get into a debate, HOPE they try to use that argument. If they claim that Bush vetoed the Farm bill for other reasons, that pretty much nulls their argument for Clinton not vetoing the 2000 spending bill.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:39 AM
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6. K. R. Bookmarked. Forwarded. Thanks! nt
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:25 AM
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8. Error:
Home » Discuss » Environment/Energy » Recommend
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:35 AM
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11. kick
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Justanothercoverup Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:51 AM
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12. Bush Blames Democrats For Oil Prices; More Lies From “The Commander In Thief”
In classic Bush rhetoric, the President once again proved that he has the audacity to blame what he and his administration of thieves and con artists have wrought against the people of the United States as Bush and Darth Cheney use a complicit Democratic Congress to rape and plunder our economy as if it was their own, destroying the future of our children and grandchildren! The MSM, like Congress, also allows these blatant lies to go unchallenged, and it’s a sad day for America when the “Liar in Chief” can blame everyone but himself for being unable to understand or resolve the shambles he has made out of the US economy. I believe that Bush knows he is universally hated by most of America and is essentially ignored in the global community, and like a petulant child that takes his ball and bat home when things don’t go his way, be seems bound and determined to punish the entire country for his own inadequacies - which are too numerous to list in an article this small. If no one “likes Him” then he will do anything and everything to destroy our democracy, our freedoms and liberty, and worst of all, the economy itself as he allows corporate America to bleed Americans dry!


Bush to Congress: Embrace energy exploration now

WASHINGTON - With gasoline topping $4 a gallon, President Bush urged Congress on Wednesday to lift its long-standing ban on offshore oil and gas drilling, saying the United States needs to increase its energy production. Democrats quickly rejected the idea.

“There is no excuse for delay,” the president said in a statement in the Rose Garden. With the presidential election just months away, Bush made a pointed attack on Democrats, accusing them of obstructing his energy proposals and blaming them for high gasoline costs. His proposal echoed a call by Republican presidential candidate John McCain to open the Continental Shelf for exploration.

Congressional Democrats were quick to reject the push for lifting the drilling moratorium, saying oil companies already have 68 million acres offshore waters under lease that are not being developed. MUCH MORE

Several countries have become aware that there really isn’t a shortage of oil, but that “oil speculators” are driving up the costs, and as usual, the Elitist’s and wealthy brokers are again wrecking havoc on our economy as the Bush administration is allowing their wealthy cronies and corporate America to rob and plunder America’s wealth with little or no oversight - and the President, true to form, is attempting to place blame everywhere but where it should be, evidence that it’s the White House that is enabling the rape of America!

Congress wary of oil-market speculation

After a failed effort to boost taxes on oil companies, lawmakers turn attention to role of speculators in driving up oil prices.

Washington - As energy prices soar, Congress is under the gun to find a way out for American consumers – or, failing that, someone to blame: Big Oil, speculators, or the other political party.

Oil companies dodged a bullet in the Senate this week, as Republicans blocked an energy bill that would have imposed a windfall profits tax on them and ended billions in tax breaks. But Democrats, who control both the House and Senate, plan to bring the issue up again, even as bipartisan scrutiny shifts to the role of speculators in contributing to sticker shock at the pump.

The Senate bill, which fell nine votes short on a procedural vote, proposed a 25 percent windfall profits tax for companies that made more than 10 percent above a past average. It also would have created an Energy Independence and Security Trust Fund – and used the $17 billion in discontinued Big Oil tax breaks to fund it. MUCH MORE

Don’t forget, even the oil companies are stating there’s no shortage of oil, which I mentioned in “The Gas Shortage Is Being Manufactured By Greed And Politics.” This is an excerpt from that article, and we all have to compliment Businessweek for telling the truth, which is a break from a complicit Mainstream News Media that chooses to knuckle-under to the White House’s propaganda machine rather than printing the truth, or what used to be called “news.”:

1. There Is No Shortage

Gasoline reserves on hand are at the highest levels since the early 1990s, which is remarkable considering the nation’s refineries have been cutting back on the production of gasoline because their margins have declined. In fact, average gasoline reserves on hand have risen since this past October, while oil reserves in this country have gone up virtually every week this year—and only fog in the Houston Ship Channel that kept oil tankers from unloading their crude one week kept it from being every week. MUCH MORE

For those in Congress whom don’t believe impeachment has its merits, every time you fill up your gas tank and understand it’s more of the wealthy robbing the Average American, remember to pick-up that phone and call your Congressional Representatives, again and again, until they finally get the message that as a nation, we’re tired of the Bush administration and his cronies robbing the American public blind! If they don’t impeach, they are all complicit in the robbery and plunder of what used to be the wealthiest nation on earth, and for that, none of them deserve to be re-elected except the few that do support the immediate impeachment of Bush and Cheney!

William Cormier

NOTE: Make sure and read “THE “ENRON LOOPHOLE” AND YOUR GAS PRICES“, another excellent commentary that exposes the people who are manufacturing these high gas prices, and backs-up my claim that the President is lying again, something that the United States and the global community has come to expect from the “Commander in Thief.”

For all of the links to work, you'll have to visit my site until I can figure out how to cross-post a message that has the links and formatting intact. http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=503
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:03 PM
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13. Thanks nt
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